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  1. Basically, i've been thinking a lot of some stuff recently, and please don't get me wrong! I love Japanese culture and i'm not attacking it, is something totally different! The Beggining Alright, some days ago i was playing some games with my friends, to be more exact, a MMORPG called Toram Online (i recommend, btw) and then we ended up crossing with someone in a dungeong where we were grinding at Basically, this person said that isn't so common to find people in that place (since there was a place with really high level monsters) and asked if he could come with us to our party, so we could grind all together We accepted and did some grinding during the rest of the day, and in the end he asked if we could talk more, so i gave my discord and added him in the server with my friends What i noticed was that he loves Japanese culture, and well, just to remind, Brazil is the most miscegenated country in the world, so it's easy to find people from lots of places around the world, i have friends that came from Japan, China, Italy and etc that lived in Brazil for years, so some of them know a lot and in a really intimate way about those cultures So, we found out about his age (16yo) and well, we didn't judged or nothing, mostly since i also used to be really addicted to Japanese stuff during my teenage and childhood The problem started when he wanted to teach us about Japanese culture and uh, he just said a lot of stuff without any basis aside from anime, just like saying that Japan is the best country in the world to live with a lot of healthy content, so, as you can imagine, since some of our friends are actually people that lived in Japan, they corrected him about a lot of stuff, not only about the life in Japan but also language aspects and etc And all good so far, as much as he was still trying to prove his points about stuff like a samurai being able to kill several american soldiers alone (honestly, that even sounds like a joke), but we just ignored it and kept playing with him The problem started when he began to talk badly about other cultures to make the Japanese culture seem as the best one, for example, when we were playing a FPS game called OpenSpades and made some jokes like "a cobra vai fumar" (that's basically something that Brazilian soldiers used to say during WW2) and he started to say that Brazil is a country of shitheads and he wish he lived in Japan, and also started bad talking about Brazilian culture itself And well, when we asked why, he said it was because we cursed at Japanese culture (???), but like, we never talked badly about Japanese culture, all we did was correcting him about stuff he thought he knew a lot more than he really did (like, we talk about anime and a lot of Japanese stuff basically everyday, why we'd offend Japanese culture if even we like it?) And just to finish this subject, after some stuff, our friend that's an actual Japanese descendant just decided to basically call him a emotionated weeaboo and well, it just made him leave the group (everyone was tired of him in the end, our group is always so peaceful and we never fight, and then someone appears and just interrupt it) Some thoughts So, it is really common here to see people, mostly teenagers that absolutely love Japanese animes, mangas and etc, it is each day more common to see people with lots of anime clothes, tattoos and even anime playing on public TVs here, and even mangas being more sold than regular books I don't really have something against it, but it kinda worries me a bit about the way it affects some of the teenagers and children here So, sometimes i visit my cousin, and he's already married and have a 7yo son, basically his son really loves anime like Naruto, Dragon Ball and etc, and that's nice tbh, for me it is just a different childhood from the one i had, but i respect it... Until some point Before talking about the childhood and teenage of the kids nowadays, nothing more fair than talking about myself So, my father never liked anime and that stuff (and also didn't let me watch it during some time), so i didn't have contact with it till i was 10yo and used to hang out with friends at school, and i liked what every kid used to like too, basically Dragon Ball and Pokemon, and it was my first contact with animes and mangas in general I didn't know a lot, mostly since i didn't have a phone and my only contact with internet were online shooting games i played on my PC, like Halo: Combat Evolved Multiplayer and Counter Strike 1.6, i didn't really know how to use internet aside from those games and youtube, where i used to watch Worms (a game) animations So, my contact with anime and manga was basically what my friends talked about on school, Pokemon trade cards that my mother used to buy for me (idk why my father never had a problem with Pokemon but had with any other anime) and the few times when it used to pass on TV, i basically used to watch it when my father was out to work It changed at my teenage, since i learned more about using internet on PC and also had my first phone when i was 14yo, and there was when i found out about the magic of the Japanese online media So, i watched my first anime, that was Sword Art Online, and after that, i started watching others such as Naruto, Evangelion and Death Note, so i started making my first online friends, and thanks to them i knew more animes to watch So, in my teenage i was already someone that really loved animes and mangas, and i also started getting mangas because of it, and i'm talking about a time when animes weren't so popular here in Brazil, only Naruto and Dragon Ball were really known and loved by other people Now, aside from the good things anime brought me, i have to talk about a more intimate topic, that's nothing more than basically hentai I knew hentai at school, i was part of a group of 4 boys (counting me, 5) and we used to talk about animes and mangas, and once we were playing something to see who knew more animes, basically each one had a certain time to say the name of the max of animes we could remember of, and it was fun till someone said to try to see who knows more hentais And i didn't know what the fuck hentais where, but everyone there seemed to be pretty aknowledged about it and even did laughed with it, so they started saying some names that i don't really remember So, arriving at my house i just searched for hentai and found out about all that shit they were talking about, and it wasn't really good since i started searching for it more and more In the end, i could get over it in just some time but honestly, if i could go back to the past, i wouldn't have searched for it, and in the end, all that happened thanks to all my curiosity about anime and japanese content (yes, i found out about hentai even before porn itself) Now, getting back to the teenagers nowadays, isn't uncommon for me to see those people that really love Japanese culture and animes, and knowing all the contact they have with technology, it just make me think, is it really something positive? It wouldn't be horrible if thanks to this love for Japanese culture they knew all the downhole that are the Japanese pornographic stuff and start even to see Japan as a perfect place, like the guy i talked about before? I know is just a moment that those people will go through during their teenages and that's normal but, are they really enjoying the Japanese content in a healthy way? It also reminds me of a guy i knew that was older than me and acted exactly the same way as the 16yo boy i talked about before, like, if it can affect negatively adults, what about the teenagers? Don't get me wrong, i don't think people should stop liking the animes and mangas and share it, but i really worry about how this generation is going on, like, i'm only 20, isn't like i'm a old man, but all that sounds like something from a whole other universe to think that children and teenagers nowadays have so much contact with stuff that can turn up to be so weird for them Like, i already saw people trying to copy personalities that they saw in animes and all that, i know that it is normal since even when i was little, i liked to imagine myself as characters i saw on TV but, my contact with that was just my TV and that's it, nowadays the children are born with a phone and a Tik Tok account And my parents had control over me and i still ended up into hentai, so just imagine those children that have almost no supervision, and a whole universe to find in their phones I found posts of people talking about hentai, virginity and etc on social media and some of those people aren't even 18, that's just something so gross for me And not only talking about the sexual part, all the obsession they have with Japan nowadays, is it really normal and healthy? For them, Japan is what they see in animes and internet posts, like, it's nice that the Asian culture is spreading around the world but some people are taking it way too far, and most of those people are just 12, 16yo Like, imagine the shame and all the negative impact that all that contact with Japanese content can cause on them due to internet? I already went through a lot of that when i used to love Japan like if it was a perfect place, and i didn't had a lot of contact with it, nowadays the teenagers have this contact and are becoming totally obsessed with Japanese stuff I know nothing will change it in the end, but the reason i wanted to make this thread is to ask, what's your opinion about it and all the impact that this content is having on this generation? Feel free to talk about it =) Btw. sorry if i said anything wrong! First of all, that's just my vision and what i understood of all that i saw here in Brazil, sorry if it bothers anyone!
    5 points
  2. Alright, time to finally answer the first round of questions: Probably I would say the Total War series of strategy games. Without my first contact with the original Rome Total War game from 2004, I wonder if I would have got the interest in history I still have up to this day. I have had a lot of plans for travelling the past year, but I did not manage to mobilize myself for a journey that long. First to France, then shortened to just Germany, then just to Budapest, and now to a short trip towards Bulgaria. I hope I could go soon in a weekend trip to Sofia, just so I could have the chance to finally visit a foreign country. That is kind of a long story... Through the years (about the past 4 years), I have used a great variety of names. My first online name, used about 6 years ago, I was pretty much like your average boomer online. It was for the first time I was actually using the internet for more than just watching videos on YouTube, and started using forums. The name I was suing at the time was just my real name (you can still find it on some history forums). Afterwards, as I already got a strong interest in the Austro-Hungarian Army due to making a personal investigation, I ended up using the name "Count Andrei". Quite possibly, the name was also inspired by the image of a local Hungarian lord, Count Arpad Tamasy von Fogaras: At the same time, as I was still in my late phase of the interest for Lord of the Rings, and was entering the Warhammer 40K phase (and very possibly a final remnant of Star Wars), another nickname arose: "Imperial Black Numenorian". Why a Black Numenorian? Because I really liked this image of what may look as either one of those wicked men or an Orc general. I like the art style, since it has some sort of 1980s vibe, and for a decent amount of time I stuck with it. After the beginning of the lockdown in 2020, my interest for the Austro-Hungarian Army came back, yet my names remained in the land of the Numenorians. What really ended up sealing the fate of what would become my current nickname was the creation of my first art page account. When I created my DeviantArt, I had to pick a name. I was not very sure what to go with, and none of my initial options seemed to fit. After multiple tries, I have ended up combining the old "Count Andrei" and "Imperial Black Numenorian" into what ended up becoming "CountVonNumenor". Count - from the original nickname I was suing that was not my irl name Von - probably taken from the memory of that image of Count Arpad Tamasy Numenor - from the old "Imperial Black Numenorian" nickname @SoundOfRayne I am not very sure what would my absolutely favorite piece of Touhou media be, so I will cheat a little bit and split it into categories: Official games - I did not have too much contact with them, but probably the only game I actually played was Perfect Cherry Blossom. And that game really has a strong nostalgic feeling for some reason, even if I booted it up for the first time a couple years ago. Official music: from my current experience, I would probably say that either Ghostly Field Club or Changeability of Strange Dream are the most memorable ZUN albums I have listened to Official literature: until now, I have only read the first 5 volumes of Forbidden Scrollery. However, I absolutely love that series Fan games: I have not really played any proper one of those (I will talk more about that in a separate thread), but I like the looks of two games that I would try - Mystia's Izakaya and Touhou Lost Branch of Legend. Oh, and maybe Kubinashi Recollection as well Fanart: for about a year now, the artist that caught my attention fully has been Iganashi1. They got me with their depiction of Eiki, and from there I stayed on. Probably before Iganashi1 however, there was Linmiee. Unfortunately, she is no longer part of the community (I think) due to some negative feedback she received last year (I have a whole thread about that), but at least her Touhou-related art is still stored on Danbooru. Fan music: currently, the answer might be a little obvious, but I will go again with Akatsuki Records. I think I might be a little obsessed with listening to their songs and I need help on that Fan comics: I did not get too much into those, especially since I did not know where to start from. I did have, for some reason, the chance to read all of Bombergrape's Touhou doujins, yet something that really caught my attention recently was this thing, thanks to a fandub: I love the art style, the wholesome vibe, the comedy and the characters have both cute and funny moments. And on top, the fan voiceover really got me laughing with the edits and added effects. As for the doujin itself, it can be found on Dynasty Reader: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kene_moko_and_the_students#1 Just for the taste of it (I will end Part 1 of my answers here)
    5 points
  3. I felt like making a list of links for touhou related sites, so I might as well share it with the forum. I only really know about the one on the Touhou Wiki but there might be another one I didn't happen to come across. A good amount of links was copied over from the touhou wiki links page, but I also added new links that weren't included for one reason or another. The list I made is also half sorted half unsorted because I kind of gave up in the middle of it and didn't pay too much attention where I ended up placing them. They have a short description next to them so you should get a general idea. Dead/Abandoned websites are/might be included in this list as long as they're still accessible without having to use the web archive. That should be all. Links are in the spoiler below. I might update this post every once in a while to add links whenever anything new comes across. But just having this thread about me throwing links around would be a waste. Any thoughts about fan made touhou forums, resources or other kind of websites (specific ones or in general)? Anything you'd want on a touhou related website that you haven't really come across so far? Do you know of any other interesting sites and want to share? Maybe even made your own or know someone who did? whew, first post from me in a long time that isn't related to the downloads or site maintenance
    4 points
  4. Alright this has probably been brought up by a lot of Touhou fans, but today I want to discuss who beats who. The characters included will be from the main era games since PC-98 games conflict with mainline games in terms of character conflicts and ZUN himself stating they wouldn't fit nowadays. SRC: Yuuka's Text from Who's Who A lot of information covered will be supplemented by sources from official sources. (Touhou Wiki is sort of semi-good for looking it up, but I will be using official sources from the manga and or official games as there might be some holes not covered) And yes, I will be using common sense if I can't find a source for information. Can't always get the specifics from vague translations. Now I won't be covering ALL Touhou characters that can beat whoever, that will take freaking eons to sort out the table. Just the ones that have a major presence in a sort of sense. Characters that are MCs are going to have wins practically cut in the official games. This means winning in the official games don't count towards the ruling as some of them might complicate rulings. This is mainly to deal with Reimu & Marisa being the top of the power and tactics scale as that isn't deterministic of their actual ranking. They still have a presence within the ranking though as they do hold powers themselves. I'll mainly be doing 4 as each one takes probably 20-40 minutes to writeup and research. HERE ARE THE RULES FOR RATING POWER & TACTICS We are rating both POWER & TACTICS to make this scale. (Flandre would probably wreck everybody if she decided not to play with them first, oh and her not being a shut in.) (This is proven by the fact that Okina used Flan in Ibun to deal with Toutetsu [Brains & Brawn]) How many situations can they deal with? (Basically how many conflicts can they solve. This will include situations they have been in) Tactical acumen and power - How do they fight? Can they use situations to create a favorable environment against others? Do they choose to use their power? Do they have a ally to help them? Weaknesses - From specific weaknesses to literal water Presence within Gensokyo - quite vague, but this is based upon their influence/presence within Gensokyo. Are they the ones that hold current soft power. (soft power being influence upon the residents) Sort of involving both 2/3 as some characters are semi-present within Gensokyo. These characters might have their own rating in their own space, E.G: The moon sisters, celestials Here are some Abbreviations for you all who don't know about the sources SCO (Strange Creators of Outer World) PMSS (Perfect Memento in Strict Sense) (BA) Bohemian Archive. Alright let's get into it shall we? 1. Yukari Yakumo (What you expected someone different?) Yukari Yakumo SRC SCO - Pretty much first hand source - written as a way of covering all the Touhou characters. This will be the most reliable as it is written without bias of Gensokyo's residents. BA SRC Aya - Interviews from Aya from the residents of Gensokyo. Take a whole lot of salt on this one as Aya is known to pick some particularly egregious things for her newspaper, though some information might be true in a sense of peering through the shroud. SRC PMSS though it is part of Akyuu's reasoning based upon Yukari - The Entire PMSS is written by Akyuu's perspective of everyone she has saw. So IDK take a grain of salt when reading PMSS articles as Akyuu records Youkai as actual threats. (Yes I'm getting that deep into Touhou lore for these sources) "Master manipulator, tactician, smarts, and whatever the hell she finds amusing to call herself." "She is the Youkai that has lived longer than many other Youkai around." assumed to be 1,200 yrs old by chroniclers of Hieda's bloodline, though this is when she is first recorded, so she is probably older than that. She is one of the most important people in Gensokyo given her status as a part of the council of sages which created the barrier. Yukari Yakumo has way more than you expect her to be. (I mean literally, what the hell is up with the hands she has in that gap?) Her powers of gap travel are only a fraction of what she can do. Her age and knowledge knows no limitations due to her various encounters with forces extraterrestrial from Gensokyo itself. She also holds the powerful abilities of barrier creation/border manipulation - the ability to bend reality between to set forms. This ability is practically cheating (Her manipulation of boundaries exist in both physical, metaphysical, theoretical and whatever forms she can feel to manipulate E.G Dreams, time, fucking danmaku battles?????, IDK, if she can think of it she can manipulate it), though even her herself seems to restrain herself to the spell card rules, as she seems to enjoy limiting herself in a fight. That is if she isn't cheated of something. (Impossible Spell Card) She herself primarily relies on her various connections and her shikigamis to do her "dirty work" as a way of spying and communications, but it's mostly her off-loading her duties and sleeping during the day. (Something she seems to enjoy doing, even if Gensokyo's residents aren't happy about her playing around.) Her status and history as a sage of Gensokyo is well known to the residents of Gensokyo. To humans, she is the first Youkai that comes to mind when describing Youkai. To Youkai, she is the top of the top and should be feared if you step out of line. She is sometimes seen around various locations, but never to fight unless provoked. Probably one of her main allies is the Hakurei family itself, even though she is a Youkai, she holds a lot of power and standing over Gensokyo through the use of Reimu acting as a human force rather than a Youkai force. Acting as a way of balancing both human and Youkais, her main beating stick as to say. (Manipulating sides seems to be her forte) It is assumed that Yukari has indeed worked with previous generations of Hakurei Maidens as she herself watches over the generations that come and go. I don't even think Yukari is a "Youkai" Youkai in the first place, her abilities are way too drastic and can change her image to anything else. She might be an interdimensional horror from the 4th dimension for all we know. she even backs it up with her quote in IMP stating that even killing her won't stop her from utterly demolishing you. This is way she is the first on the power scale. Her powers and tactics way exceed other gods, Youkai, human, and whatever else. She herself holds Gensokyo within her grasp of her own thoughts and powers. She uses her own allies and minions to exert more control for her own downfalls or simply laziness. She is simply the best in Gensokyo. 2. Okina Matara (Why is it always the blondes?) SCO Okina SCO Interview, not a lot of sources for this one, so it would be short. (for my sanity) "The god of your life." "The Backdoor god." "Gensokyo's hidden god." Her powers can create, manipulate or empower many of Gensokyo's residents. She is also one of Gensokyo's sages that have remained hidden for some time. She is also assumed to be older than the history of Gensokyo itself. Okina is what one can think of Yukari, but less mysterious and more prideful than most. She herself holds Gensokyo to a high degree and will do whatever to maintain the peace. (Events from Ibun, HSIFS) Her powers can create and empower Youkai. (Cirno being tanned and all powered up) Her ability to manipulate seasons/life energy is also something to note as she can freely manipulate it without help of others. With this, she claims that she herself is enough to make Gensokyo with her powers alone. She can also manipulate mental energy as the heroines couldn't beat her at first and can only face her in the extra stage with some amnesia during their fight with story Okina. Though this is not explored upon, it might be much more powerful depending on how much she exerts her power. She seems to have much more fighting prowess than most bosses in general, as she can manipulate the characters easily with the backdoors to her advantage. Not much about weaknesses are known. Her minions are Mai and Satono. These characters seem to only obey Okina's will and have no memory of what their former lives were, they hold some powers over life and mental energy from their master and perform her duty within Gensokyo. She is fairly new to Gensokyo, but has made a huge debut to the population as a way of announcing her own arrival to the scene. I'm also assuming Okina has a better IQ than most residents of Gensokyo given her backstory, her own prideful nature, and the events of Ibun. She herself also knows and talks with Yukari as some sort of equal standing. Though this is short (this isn't short at all LOL), Okina will remain second due to her power of manipulating life and mental energy. Though she isn't that big of a master planner. She holds specific aspects that remain powerful to her ability as a dutiful protector of Gensokyo. Her own IQ is probably at par with Yukari given the amount of time she has experienced, and her way of planning and dealing with incidents at hand. She is probably one of Gensokyo's true gods. 3. Reimu Hakurei (Main Character Moment) SCO Reimu BA Reimu PMS Reimu "The Shrine Maiden of Paradise" "Incident Resolver" "Hakurei Maiden" "She will beat you up before asking questions" Reimu Hakurei is depicted though a lot of media. Her age is assumed to be around 20 - 30, but time is all kinds of screwed up within Gensokyo and who knows if being the Hakurei Maiden comes with some beauty and youth benefits. (I mean even the Yin-Yang Orb provides some weird powers for Reimu to use) SRC Reimu Hakurei holds a lot of abilities as the "Hakurei Shrine Maiden" her abilities allow her to "fly" and her occupation/"bloodline" allowing her to manipulate the Hakurei orb and perform easy Youkai extermination. (not much is known about how the Hakurei Maiden is chosen, though Aya did mention in "Silent Sinner in Blue" that the Hakurei Shrine Maiden was mostly found. How they determine who's the maiden is not known.) She is also well versed in barrier techniques and plays around with a lot of her equipment, Ofuda, Yin-Yang Orbs, Gohei, or the purification needles. She mostly attacks with a combination of Ofuda attacks, Gohei swings, barrier manipulation and some good ole melee combat and a spell card to seal off opponents as a finisher. Her tactical acumen within fights is mostly supported by her allies. (Yukari, and or others) She herself is mostly a fight first, talk later fighter in which if she thinks you are an enemy, be prepared to fight. She is usually the glass cannon but without the glass and a giant gohei stick being bashed to your face. Though this is if she is in her "incident mode". Her regular mode is mostly her in the regular shrine maiden mode in which she exhibits human qualities and a easygoing nature. Speaking of allies, Reimu seems to have a wide array of powerful friends that visit or even accompany her during incidents. Be it Yukari, Suika, Sanae, Marisa, or whoever. She seems to grow quite a following due to her own nature and occupation. This also leads to her gathering a lot of information about various Youkai and allowing her to make some advantage depending on which Youkai. This leads to Reimu's own reputation within Gensokyo as she is pretty well known on both sides for being the tyrant or the inhabitant of the Youkai Shrine. In other words. She is feared and known by many who wouldn't want to deal with her on a regular day, especially if an incident is occurring. She remains the top of the human scale, but not top in the total scale. Her own inherent powers make up a large part of her ranking, but her own access to various types of information and her own prowess as a shrine maiden has allowed her to place 3rd in Gensokyo. 3-4(depends). Marisa Kirisame (Inherent Power) PMS Marisa SCO Marisa BA Marisa "Ordinary Magician" "Ms. Steal Everything" "Rainy Magician" "The adventurous troublemaker" Marisa Kirisame comes around as the most human of all humans compared to Reimu. Her age also seemingly around 20-30 depending on what you think. Marisa Kirisame is one of the most tactical/hardworking way in her way of life, she sees something that she likes, she steals it and improves upon it for her own use in her arsenal. This can range from spell cards to items she fancies to take and "borrow" for her own use. Her way of life has strengthened her in both body and soul. With the help of her gadgets and potions. She has exceeded in the usage of speed and magic use. (She lives in a forest of magic poisonous mushrooms) Her main weapons is the Mini-Hakkero, a magical furnace with the ability to output a giant beam attack with the incantation of a spell. Her other weapons that she regularly uses is her trusty broom and potions in which provide her power and speed against her opponents. She also can fly standalone through some means magic or some other, but she mostly uses her broom for such occasions. (GFW Fight scene) That aside, her own nature has lead her to fighting opponents to test out her spell cards and equipment. Reimu included. Sometimes she wins, sometimes not. Though this is how she improves upon her abilities and eventually wins over opponents that a regular exterminator could've thought of ever beating. Her weakness is her own way of improving her strength. She does have allies in some sort of way, though they are mostly just acquaintances (Alice, Patchy) that sometimes helps out during incidents. (She sometimes steals from them as both are magicians) Marisa mostly works alone during incidents or jobs as they are mostly her own adventures. Marisa's presence within Gensokyo is mostly that of a thief, (not helped due to the fact that she constantly steals from others) though she is also thought to be a sort of bounty/youkai hunter for various jobs and such through her shop. Though not a lot of requests are made due to the location and general hidden nature of her house within the Forest of Magic. Her personality is mostly one of condescending nature according to Akyuu, but her nature is one of inquisitiveness allowing her to research what most find boring. She remains at the 3/4th ranking as her own powers are determined based upon who she is fighting, and if she has the necessary firepower or equipment to deal with them. Her own personality allows her to learn from fights lost and allow her to perform upgrades or copying from others to add to her own arsenal. Although she is mostly a lone wolf, she remains as the only true human that is powerful enough to go against some of the powerful Youkai in Gensokyo. Concluding Alright this is my scale depending on the sources I've read. I spent too much time on this so it will remain at 4 because too lazyyyyyy. (and I got to sleep) Keep in mind this is just my opinions on who would be the most powerful in Gensokyo, there might be some information which might conflict, but that would take forever to cross check with recent information. See ya.
    3 points
  5. "Everywhere?" Japan is full of cute marketable mascots and iconography, but you don't find material appealing to the otaku audience "everywhere" on the streets; unless you are in a specific district for it in a very large city, like Akihabara in Tokyo. This. For the Japanese, I think it's best to think of anime/manga as something like their equivalent to say, the film industry in America. For example, over there (and here in England for that matter) you're going to find a fairly significant number of people who are big fans of the MCU, and you're also going to find an equally significant number of people who don't really give a shit.
    3 points
  6. To put everything simply (and bluntly) it's Japanese animated soap opera. Though anime is like a magic word to make people forgot that the west also made cheap awful stuff. Existing public view even if you only watch the quality stuff, general public already perceived anime as a down bad environment, even Japanese themself think so. it will be super hard to convince them unless they took interest themself. even if you manage to convince them, they'll probably end up greeted with the 'average stuff', confirming their initial opinion as true. Fan services i think i don't need to explain this you get what i mean human nature at the pinnacle Clickbaity Most of them are just made for gathering audience. (in relation of fan service) It's a business after all, the only way to get profit is to gather as many audience as possible. For more extreme example is those "I isekaid as a lustful adventurer in a world consist only women" titles (it's quite hilarious they used isekai as an excuse for defying social norms) Cheap production I don't know if you realized, but there's bazillion anime titles out there. If you were to watch a random anime you'd surely be disappointed. It's all just poorly put together for the sake of filling the market. Getting as many episodes as they could with least effort. Even the popular ones often just poorly written. *cough* i actually having hard time picking an example because there's so many of them hmmm *cough* Touhou (ZUN pls) *cough* If you had read a world class novel or movies or anime you'd understand how distant their difference than average anime. Though it's quite unreasonable to demand everything in high quality. again lowest cost production possible for profit. Quite a bad time to talk about this since last year there's was quite a few amazing anime released like Cyberpunk, Chainsaw Man and Bocchi the Rock. And as an artist point of view Anime artstyle lack of creative freedom, everything built on the same foundation. They had ran out of originality that they had to put complicated design, like pattern on their clothes (ZUN PLS) or tattooed face (Demon Slayer) or multicolorred hair (Vtuber) DON'T YOU KNOW HOW HARD ARE THOSE TO DRAW? I haven't even picked on the animation It took One Piece 1015 episodes to properly lipsync, that simple thing was delightful. Again in relation of cheap production. that includes me help edit: wait why there's two parts of this topic? also use safebooru.org
    3 points
  7. So, i wanted to make a topic dedicated to wallpapers, so some people can end up finding wallpapers they can like and use! Btw, if you wanna share your wallpapers, feel free to do it! =D Btw, the wallpapers can be for PC or for Mobile too, feel free to post any wallpaper you'd like to! I included some wallpapers of cars, my favorite anime (K-On!) and Touhou
    3 points
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  9. Every other "weeb" fanbase has this, that's nothing new. Also - while I can't (won't be bothered to) provide actual data, it was already noticed that while Touhou Project has a larger amount of R18 content made than other "usual suspect" franchises (various popular gacha games with tons of waifus of all forms, personalities, shapes and sizes) objectively, the percentage of that R18 content among all Touhou fanmade content is lesser than this of fanmade R18 content of other franchises. So, actually, Touhou Project fanbase isn't that "down bad", it just makes so much stuff in general, that its mountain of porn inevitably became bigger.
    3 points
  10. Undertale vs Touhou in a nutshell : Everything started when Undertale became pretty popular in 2017, some Touhou fans noticed the Subterranean Animism (and not only) references Toby Fox has made in his game and so they claimed Undertale is copying Touhou 11 Then some other were mad because they noticed that Bad Apple and other famous MV were "stolen" by the Undertale fanbase (they were really considering it as stealing but tbh it was just some parodies) And finally, the video Sakuya vs Frisk(Chara) was born it’s an animation made by JzBoy and Sakuya : Undertale fans were angry and some debate about multiversal Frisk is stronger than Sakuya etc… To bring back the two communities together, JzBoy made the video Asriel vs Marisa ; Toby Fox admitted he likes Touhou and that’s it What you must know is that most of the fans at this moment were 12-15 years old so they were kinda immature :/
    3 points
  11. Now I can't exactly pinpoint if Japanese media is having an negative influence on today's teens but what I can say is that a lot of people going through this phase aren't emotionally or mentally mature enough to truly grasp on what their doing with their lives, they tend to be curious or reckless. I am not an expert on Japanese Culture by any means but I think the reason why people love Anime and Manga so much is because of how accessible it is, compared to the 80's and 90's where it was a niche interest hobby then is now an extremely popular form of entertainment both in it's home country and across the globe. As kids we grew up with shows like Pokémon, Dragon Ball Yu-Gi-Yo Etc. Yet as we grow older, our curiosity for Japanese media grows bigger thanks to TV programs like Toonami and the internet. Having a hobby of watching anime and reading manga on a daily basis is rather normal in our modern society (to a degree) but this can be taken to an unhealthy degree by not only consuming nothing but Japanese media but also disregarding there own culture, hence the term 'Weeaboo." Though the term is usually reserved for people who truly think there Japanese so maybe it's not the right word I'm looking for. However, what I can say is how saturated Anime industry is, you have many different shows appealing to a wide demographic of people, otaku's included. Shonen Jump is no stranger to this with it's male audience with works like Dragon Ball, One Piece and Naruto. Of course someone would want to become a Super Sayian or whatever but a lot of people are often influenced by anime, so naturally people like to have an emotional connection with their favorite show, even if they do silly things like doing the naruto run or acting out there favorite scenes because there passionate about it. Of course, you will always have those who have some... questionable tastes in things. To be fair, a lot of people are addicted to fame and they tend to chase after clout whenever they can since people have a competitive mind set when it comes to bragging rights, that's social media for you. I'm not a MHA fan at all but I've heard about how toxic the fan-base can be, especially when it comes to character shipping. Usually I avoid talking about sexual topics solely because I don't know how to tackle them but all I can say is a lot of people where horny at some point in their lives during there high school years, it's not uncommon. It's all part of growing up I suppose. I do have to apologize since I had rush this segment because I have to get ready to leave with some family members to go on a hike, so if I said anything wrong or inappropriate then I apologize and I will correct any errors I've made. So yeah, that's all I have for now.
    3 points
  12. Isn't that fixers are supporting the right for women to look pretty in a different way or... I don't get it if you don't mind explaining to me your point I think I know what they're getting at. Yes, people want to support the right for women to look beautiful in different, more progressive ways. To illustrate my point, I'm gonna put this in the context of body positivity; y'know, "Big people are beautiful too." That kind of thing. So, the idea behind body positivity is a very well-meaning gesture: People shouldn't feel like they are excluded from being attractive if they don't conform to a traditional image of beauty; in this case, being thin. Body positivity is all about making the discussion and expression of beauty more inclusive. But, for a small but loud minority of people, that's not what this movement means to them. It's not about progressive and traditional ideas of beauty coexisting and intermixing with each other; it's about progressive ideas replacing traditional ones. "Out with the old. In with the new." Big isn't just beautiful. Big is in, and by extension, thin is out. It's a clear corruption of what the original message was supposed to be, but if you think on it, you can kinda see how someone who approaches this topic with a lot of hostility would come to that conclusion. That's what SasaMisa's trying to describe. Whatever kind of "female form" they're trying to describe is super vague. It could be anything: body positivity, gender neutrality, natural beauty vs. beauty products, who knows? But the idea is still there: They found someone or some group of people trying to push for some progressive vision by outright rejecting and discrediting whatever kind of "female form" they happen to like. But just like SasaMisa says, if woman have the right to choose a progressive type of beauty, they have to retain the right to choose traditional beauty too. Otherwise, it stops being a choice. Actually, now that I think about it, I wonder just how many other heated debates get to be where they are because of this "corruption of ideals." Inclusivity should be strove for, but if the way to way to make it happen is to just boot out what once was because "Mom says it's my turn to define beauty," then of course there'll never be a healthy way to resolve it.
    3 points
  13. I have two questions. Firstly, seeing as you often mention how you're a newer fan and talk about your journeys of exploring this thing we call "Touhou", what Touhou related content do you want to explore in the future? Secondly: A bus left the Scarlet Devil Mansion; three people boarded at the start At Hakugyokurou, one left and half a person boarded At Yakumo-san's house two people left; so how many passengers in total?
    3 points
  14. 13,512 downloads

    So I decided to share some of my Touhou animated cursors that I've been using lately with you guys, since most likely their original sources will be gone after some years like some already did. Have fun! Also, I do not own anything, I just made a pack with a bunch of cursors that some artists from NicoNicoDouga and Pixiv have made VirusTotal Scan: https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/55be865e462bd4695c69125751d8725f6359a38731db2141bb155add856b2fe0
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  15. I didn't knew that but those details makes her looks more impressive O_O I prefer Koakuma as she was in EoSD if you (once again) look closely to her sprite, you can see that her dress is cuter than the one she wear in the majority of fanarts + she have short hair and no wings in the back :3 So a fan did this drawing which really looks like her EoSD sprite Then we have Daiyousei, if you look (again) closely, you can see a bunch of turquoise pixel around her waist which is a ribbon that nobody have ever noticed... also her hair is shorter than Cirno's ^^ As you may know, Touhou Lost Word ALWAYS takes the official designs when it comes to make the A6 (or A any number) characters so here it is... (and A6 remilia + meiling cuz why not)
    2 points
  16. I have a convenient slot of time right now so I'll post round 3. @Gou the frog come and fill in your reviews for the backlog when you have the time, I understand that the reason this happened is because you are very busy.
    2 points
  17. This is what I was worried about previous tournament (something similar happened way back in the first one). I recommend setting a maximum duration for each rounds; participants are aware of how long they have to get their review in before the next round is due. It should be reasonably generous, especially for larger tournaments, but not so long as to stagnate participation. It . . . really hasn't been. I was gone for a week, and came back to quite a bit of backlog to catch-up on (still working on it). Just because there are some quiet days, doesn't mean overall activity is down.
    2 points
  18. okay hate might be a gross overestimation they simply just try to avoid it if they can, especially the elders. the youngsters seems have accepted that anime is just a part of daily life, it just exist. but again this depends on the individual, it's not uncommon for people to dislike moe stuff talk about moe, can we use this term instead? since moe is the most common view of anime. i just reminded what's a bad writing example Lost Word omg pls i cant take it anymore, i dont even know how to talk about this one multiple plot points at once, unexplained coincidences, stretched logic, sudden convenience, plot twists, resurrected characters, character bias, i... dont get me started on the side events *cough* this is off topic about general anime hate already *cough* my requirements for good writing is quite simple 'can i feel the writings?' ------------------------- touhou, it's like pieces of worldbuilding, it's just a collections of concepts. all the printworks so far just an introduction to character, how they behave, how they talk, what they do. so far all the story told is about the world itself and it's residence, not about characters in a world. if you were to spirited into gensokyo you will mostlikely be in awe with the scenery, not the individuals. touhou is the kind of story that people will not enjoy listening but will enjoy researching so yeah wheres the bad part? i will say the emotionlessness, the manga are simplistic in nature. every plot point is very straightforward. that simplistic nature leaves no place for emotion surge. in example the manga Detective Satori, it's just people running around chasing someone. it will be quite repetitive at times yes it has some cool scenes but uh.. how do i say it i feel no emotion, i dont feel their struggle, i dont feel Miyadeguchi hatred. i just read them. if i were to pick a priintwork it'll be CoLA, CiLR and WaHH, it's more focused into knowing the individual than the world. i felt some understanding in them. also PCB and DDC story is pretty neat. i haven't read Lotus Eaters, i should though, considering my name. tbh no i stopped few paragraphs under the video
    2 points
  19. I can't wait for Torm to come back from vacation.
    2 points
  20. I'm not surprised somebody would be comparing anime to soap opera though it does make sense (at least to me) for the two to be compared together. As for fan-service, I'm not bothered by it if the characters are adults or if it's tasteful though I can definitely why alot of people can be turned off by it (or even grossed out) with things like lolicon or ecchi. I'm particularly not a fan of how some Japanese media like to pander to some sweaty perverted Japanese males with boatloads of fan-service with no thought or substance behind it. Especially if the characters are minors, then it's not good. As far anime recommendations go: Have you ever heard of Cowboy Bebop? I think it's a great series to jump into IMO, it has fluid animation, the characters are great without felling like walking anime tropes, the soundtrack is legendary and the fan-service isn't distracting. I highly recommend it. It's okay mate, I've (almost) read of what you posted, activity here has been pretty slow lately, though it's peaceful around here so I'm used to it. Wish I could say more but I simply don't know what to say.
    2 points
  21. ZUN literally said that we, Touhou fans, should consider PC98 games as fan games About Marisa and her family : « Marisa's family runs a large second-hand shop in the Human Village, called the "Kirisame Shop". Marisa has broken off relations with her family, and avoids everything related to them. She says to Rinnosuke Morichika that she'll never go back to them, and refuses to entertain the idea. In Perfect Memento in Strict Sense, it's stated that her family is a private matter and the details are unclear. The book also hypothesizes that since the Kirisame Shop doesn't handle things related to magic items, it may be one reason why Marisa left. » (source : Touhou Wiki) About the Vampire incident : Thanks to a spell of course Reimu and Marisa are really powerful, Reimu is able to do a lot of things as long as she keeps her mind pure and Marisa was interested in magic since little, Mima choosed her as her disciple and teach her magic. Btw they are not fighting like we imagine but they are "playing" Danmaku : it’s just about defeating someone with a beautiful pattern.
    2 points
  22. Alright there are a lot of things I want to list, but that will probably take some more time, so I will list some later when I get the time to. A lot of these will probably relate to your takes. @CountVonNumenor History of Gensokyo not being explored as often - Oftentimes Gensokyo itself seems to just exist within the present without much thought to its history. I wished that ZUN gave more thought to this as it seems like he just erased the whole entire history without as much as a reference to the past events. I know that Akyuu seems to chronicle the past, but it seems like a lot of Gensokyo's residents seem to have no recollection of past events, and or never had it come to mind. I wish that he would do either a reboot or a remake given the fact that he seems to want to forget about the PC-98 games. People in General Not liking More Non-canon/Mature(Not Adult) Works - Gensokyo/Touhou is mostly regarded as a PG series aimed at people who enjoy funny comedy hahas and/or Yuri in general. People don't seem to pay attention to any Doujin-related works, such as Osana Reimu or Yakumi Sarai (Zounose), and or games because they only see cannibalism/not cannon material and move on. In general, it appears that there is little emphasis on works that explore Gensokyo in a way that most 18-25-year-olds would be interested in. I mean, literally, there are other works that focus on this age demographic that are extremely successful, and I can see something like this exploring Gensokyo in a more in-depth way. I'd like to see how Marisa goes about making her own stuff and/or exploring the world of Gensokyo in greater depth. Marisa has had a much harsher upbringing, especially given that she chose to live alone from her family due to unknown circumstances and practically made everything herself. Reimu doesn't even have parents for all we know! How did she even become a shrine maiden in the first place? What was her upbringing? How was Gensokyo since before the spell card implementation and how did the so called Vampire incident occur? All of this can be explored in non-canon works which surprisingly seem to not be as prominent. Actual Threats to Gensokyo, The case of OP MC because whole entire game would be NULL- You know how this works: Reimu, Marisa, and some other character(s) go and try to stop an incident, and it always ends up with the heroine(s) winning, even if the opponent is literally a god or somebody that can literally screw around with space and time and everything in between. This kind of winning makes me really doubt the power of these "Youkai," who can just be beaten by the shrine maiden, who can just whack them with a gohei stick that seems to have grown as big as a log since the olden days. "But what about the Hakurei Barrier?" "Wouldn't it break?" What? You think Reimu is the sole person holding it together? She maintains it; she isn't the one who put it there in the first place. Yukari and the other sages are the ones who built the barrier and know how to repair it in the first place. Heck, Yukari even messes around with the barrier when she is bored and knows how to manipulate it to her will to go in and out without trouble. I have no doubt that Yukari would be the one to teach the Hakurei's how to keep it in tip-top shape in the first place. The only logical reason she is thinking of maintaining the Hakureis is as a form of human power projection and the reduced work load she would have to do. She already has Ran and Chen to do most of her work around Gensokyo. So why not another one that deals with troublemakers and does another part of her work for her in maintaining the Hakurei Barrier? It would be stupid to create a barrier that only one person is able to maintain, fix, and uphold. So I don't see why there isn't an actual ending where an incident occurs and other forces within Gensokyo deal with it in their own way, or where the incident permanently changes something within Gensokyo.
    2 points
  23. @Nekofire thank you for the reply! Given nobody wrote in here for a week, I ended up thinking this thread will go nowhere and I forgot about it. But you have brought some good points. A lot of the things you have mentioned remind me of this image, which despite the fact I have used in a different context (talking about Fusu), I think rather fits: "No anon, your waifu doesn't love you or as you go out with her, or go into any sort of romantic confession to a complete foreigner. No anon, your waifu will not allow or want you touch her in inappropriate places. No anon, your waifu will not beg you have sex with her" These are all coming from someone who has yet to even have the chance of even thinking what some of these things actually are (yeah, I still have to work on that aspect of my life...)
    2 points
  24. I get it now, it’s really because of this outfit, it’s the same as Anya’s in MoF. In Japanese culture, couple often wear the same outfit to show their love it’s called "osoroi code" (おそろいコーデ) ^^
    2 points
  25. I’ve noticed that female anime characters tend to be more like a mix of several fetish rather than actual girls/characters. We could say the same thing for male characters, like 15 yo teens who naturally have the body of Schwarzenegger (as if it was normal and possible). In my opinion there is a sort of dehumanisation of the human kind coming from hentai addict weebs and "DiscordMod" specimens (sorry for the actual discord moderator it’s not nice I know). They think it’s because hentai characters are fictional that they can allow themselves to support rape zoophilia or pedophilia (in a way we can call it support) Right now I can’t really prove there is a correlation between loving this type of content and the desire of reproducing what they see in Hentai irl. But I’m sure it can deteriorate the mental health of some people and, let’s be serious, Danbooru have its part of responsability in it
    2 points
  26. Being in a class full of anime fans and people who just love Japan in general, I'm glad I don't know anyone like this. Then again, we're adults, not teenagers (OK, some of us are teenagers, but you know, almost at 20). I'm afraid I don't really know what else to say on this subject. For me personally, although I've long had contact with Japanese culture through Nintendo games and also did have a ninja phase at one point when I was young, I'd say that Touhou Project counts as my first proper connection with Japan, and is what sparked my interest in the country. And yes I've watched a bit of anime and read a manga, but it just didn't quite become my thing compared to other facets of Japanese culture - namely gaming, traditional folklore, and food does doujin count too even if it's only Touhou doujin? Sorry I can't really help the discussion more, I'd bring up my experiences of weeaboos if I had any but I guess not being that integrated into the anime subculture means that I don't really have encounters with them.
    2 points
  27. Happy New year everyone! After watching and reading some content recently, I have started to become very curious about the subject of rivalries between Touhou and other series. (This does not deny the fact I am quite happy the Touhou fandom is actually friends with other communities as well, probably the best example coming to my mind right now being the TF2 community) Especially since for as long as I have been in Touhou community (entered my third year), I have not seen anything serious going on. I have heard a lot about the times when some parts of the Touhou and Undertale fandoms clashed, and actually seen some of those in comments for old videos (they really feel like a time capsule reflecting the times). But there are some old, perhaps gone rivalries I have heard about, yet know too little about what happened, and would like to learn more about those times. First one I would like to ask about was apparently between Touhou and Kantai Collection (Kancolle) fans. From the very little I know, Kancolle was nicknamed something like "the Touhou killer/the series that will kill Touhou"? I would like to know what actually happened at the time, how things developed, and what is current state of the relation between the two fandoms. The second thing I was going to ask about, despite possibly not being a fandom rivalry, but really got my attention as I was writing this, is regards to a Twitter post (confirmed to be fake news - I will cover that in the following days). Apparently, Touhou has been replaced this year from the Comiket introduction booklet by Blue Archive, and that this is the only other time it happened was in 2007 (which again, was confirmed to be false). Does anyone have more context on this issue? I don't really know what is going on, how it ended up like this, and if there are any possible consequences if fandoms start acting up again. From the way that tweet was framed, it implies that Touhou was used for the booklet for a long time, and this year it was for the first time replaced by another series after a decade and a half? I would like to learn more about the topic, especially about the relation with all the series that through time were framed as "the series that will kill/overthrow Touhou". But to me, one thing is clear: you can't kill Touhou. No matter if is is no longer the most popula series or ends up getting outshined by some new sparkly thing, Touhou will continue to exist. Therefore, I would add it as a third thing that would survive a nuclear fallout, along with cockroaches and rats.
    2 points
  28. Ah rivalries, I always thought that rivalries were kind of dumb if they were started over which one was better than the other. Whelp guess I'll answer those two questions. 1. Touhou and Kantai Debate 2. The Clickbait wars
    2 points
  29. Apologies for the late reply but like you pointed out: there's nothing wrong being passionate about your favorite anime (or game) like Pokemon or K-On for instance but I would've never imagined someone you've met could do something fucked up as drawing a dead cat as an anime character lol. The thing for me is that I'm kind of indifferent or weirded out towards ecchi in Japanese media sometimes, although if the characters are teens then it makes feel uneasy. Like you said, it could go down towards a gross rabbit hole and it does raise some concerns. Though if it's for adults then it doesn't really bother me. I don't know which is sadder; the fact that weeabos support one of the most xenophobic countries in the world or they worship a 2D drawing on a screen to an unhealthy degree to the point where they develop to a creepy obsession or both. That's not to say you can't have a waifu or a like a cute anime girls but there people who do take it too far and claim that their married to a 14 year old and how could it not disturb someone? Yeah, Japanese porn can be fucked up to put it lightly, since there's so much bizarre and downright gross fetishes (I.E Lolicon, incest, rape Ect.) Personally I don't like talking about my history with hentai mainly because it had an negative impact on my mind before, though It's saddening that some people can turn into addicts, especially if they have mental health issues to begin with (though I DO NOT sympathize with legitimate creeps or people who exploit others), it's a rabbit-hole that'll ruin you brain if your not careful or don't value your sanity. It was fun discussing this topic with you, I'm glad you enjoyed my post! I tried to keep this appropriate to the topic as much as possible while making it SFW (because of the rules here), hope I didn't say anything weird.
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  30. It actually makes sense, most people like me for example find out about all the horrible stuff about Japan due to curiosity, and some people can just deal with it perfectly, but other ones end up liking or getting way addicted into it I think that what worries me the most is how this curiosity can affect their health, since a lot of people that likes or consume weird stuff as adults started with that in their teenage, so, with it being each day more common to be seen, it is worrying to imagine that a lot of people with gross desires (like all the weird sexual stuff Japan has) are forming so massively And also all their obsession for Japanese culture in a really unhealthy way, i met a guy past year that literally used to draw his dead cat as a anime character, and it would be okay, even beautiful to think he didn't forget his cat, but the problem is that all his love for Japan and etc exists because he was a complete addict into Japan, like, if you said something bad about Japan, he'd ban you from the group ( i saw him doing it), and i really hope that he was just a isolated case, but seeing all those teens that act exactly as him (he was 21yo) is worrying, who knows if they will turn out to be like him? Yup, i think that something else that worries me about the animes is all the ecchi on it, some kids with their contacts with internet, if they watch an anime with ecchi stuff and search more for it, maybe they can end up in a really gross downhole, like, Dragon Ball Z used to have a lot of ecchi, but it didn't affect a lot the children because they didn't had a phone in their hands to look for stuff related to this kind of content With anime becoming more popular and more children knowing it, it is something pretty weird to think that they can end up finding horrible stuff about the animes they like just through a simple google search, and also the part they can end up being complete addicts to Japanese culture, since is normal for it to happen to people with less age, and all we can do is hope for all that to be just a phase and they don't end up taking this to another level in their lives Yup, watching anime and reading manga in a healthy way as a hobby is great, it can even make someone's life better, but well, exactly what you said, when people take this kind of hobby way too far, it surely is horrible, and it applies for any hobby actually, since liking to post in forums (like we're doing right now) to listen to metal music (it usually has negative themes, so if someone let this kind of thing consume them, it would be horrible), and the reason Japanese culture is something so different to all the other hobbies that can turn out to be unhealthy, is the way it spreads so fastly, like, each day more people get into it and more people has chance to misunderstood everything and take this kind of content way too far And well, Weeaboo can be a good term for that, don't worry! Since most people that spam Japanese culture everywhere and treat it as perfect usually think about theirselves as Japanese born in the wrong place (i already saw a lot of brazilians saying that) In my opinion, isn't something so weird for people to do this kind of thing when they're underage, as i said, i also wanted to hunt pokemons when i was little, but it surely is weird when people, since their teenages till nowadays still treat this kind of content as something so amazing and perfect like they did when younger I think is normal to anime to influence people, but what worries me is about when this influence is positive or not, for example, myself, i started playing bass because i love K-On! and my favorite character is Mio, a bass player, but it didn't made me see Japan as exactly what K-On represents or even go too far at a level that my lifestyle is based into K-On (for example, that REALLY WEIRD guys that think their waifus are their girlfriends and that stuff, or also people that marry with anime characters, you can see for example that guy that married hatsune miku and bought dakimakuras and a lot of other stuff about her, even if people claim that it is okay, i just can't take it as something natural and normal) I think the whole problem is about how sensitive the person that get into Japanese culture is, for example, someone without any knowledge about Japan watch an anime and think it is exactly what the content from there represents, without not even caring to search more for it and taking what they saw in their favorite shows as the truth It is normal to have sexual wishes during puberty, but what worries me about the pornography in Japan is mostly the hentai content, since in a regular porn that those teens would end up falling into you won't see tentacles, rape or all the lolicon stuff that you find in hentais and etc, if a fragile person with gross sexual wishes that it doesn't know yet end up falling into a hentai with those wishes exactly representated, they will end up in a downhole that's worse than just watching a normal sex video you find normally on internet And the scariest part is that it will affect totally their personal lives, if not in their social life, in their life at their house or even alone, if regular porn already destroys someone's mind, just imagine what a hentai with weird or even criminal content can do Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion! It was a nice post to read tbh, it was really interesting to read and you really know well about what you're saying =D Btw, sorry if i said anything wrong!
    2 points
  31. Happy New Year! I am going to open this year of threads with something more casual. As the thread title suggests, I am open to any kind of questions. Even if I may prefer questions in regards to my interest in Touhou/other series I like or the life as a Moriya Shrine denizen, anything is absolutely welcome. Huh, perhaps I am defeating the whole purpose of an AMA? Anyway, let the questions roll in. There is no number of questions limit per user, so feel free to as much as you wish.
    2 points
  32. I am not very sure about that. I do not have yet any Touhou content to consider unwatchable, even if after making a little research, I ended up not listening to Innocent Key in my first weeks as a fan (Sakuya abuse/molesting by the Scarlet sisters and jokes about it in the songs I have listened to), and probably a video I would like to forget it exists is a Fukkireta version featuring Alice and Marisa, and it goes all the way into the fanon version of Alice (including her suddenly stripping and getting to rape Marisa). How did that end up still being on YouTube, it is a mystery. For proof of its existence, I have recently found the clip again on Danbooru, stored as one of the 32 files under the "Fukkireta" tag. Well, I guess that is a thing that exists. Oh, the answer is simple. It is a late 1890s-ealry 1900s (1895?-1908) Austro Hungarian field uniform of the infantry. I have chosen it because in an old family photo, one of my ancestors is wearing this uniform model (how did he serve in the A-H Army in WW1, kind of a long story due to the fact I am from Transylvania). This is the full image: And for the same kind of uniform and era, there are excellent contemporary illustrations from the early 1900s: It's a long story... First, I just want to finish the final two volumes of Forbidden Scrollery. Afterwards, perhaps complete the listening to all of ZUN's music albums, or go again, more thoroughly through Perfect Memento in Strict Sense and Symposium of Post-mysticism. As for fan projects, I think that will be the topic of another thread in which I would like to talk about fan games and looking for games to play. I am going to use Cirno levels of logic here: The answer is, the answer is, zero people, zero people That's because, that's because, There are no buses in Gensokyo! Therefore, since there are no buses, we can't have people travelling by bus. Only trains. Why trains? Because our gorgeous gap hag eternally 17 Yukari Yakumo keeps spawning them in Gensokyo Already answered a little earlier. Unfortunately, most of the fictional universes I got an interest in are kind of violent, or overall just not a nice place to live in (at least at the time when the action of said piece of media is focused). Probably one of the more peaceful options would be Hobbiton from Tolkien's works. It seems like a nice, quiet place, far from all the intrigue, struggles for power and overall drama. Just a nice place to be in, and probably live an uneventful life. Because at some point, I might just be the kind of person who wants a little peace and quite, relaxing place to fins themselves in. If I remember of any other place I would go to, I will return with a continuation of this paragraph. The answer is simple. I love military history, and am quite curious to see a lot of old things. And for that, france has probably one of the biggest tank museums of Europe, in the city of Saumur. That was initial target of the trip. But then, i was planning to just cut it to Germany and visit the Panzermuseum Munster. And from there, I had to cut again as I was running short of time, I would have been on my own abroad (as I never travelled abroad before) and then college started, so I had to further short the trip to what will probably be a weekend in the capital of Bulgaria. But to put the answer shortly: tanks. Lots of tanks, many of them historical pieces from the World Wars.
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  33. My monitor screen is shattered, but somehow thru magic i managed to use my phone as replacement monitor lmao. yes this written from a PC, just the text is very very small. silver forest - keep in faith Holyshit how old is this? Holyshit the classic video intro! The opening vocal makes me question my headphone, i spent few minutes adjusting the cable because of that. and how the melody is quite faithful to the original shows how old the music is. it's ok, the arraneent is just.. yeah, pretty usual for silver forest stuff, even in the newer releases it sounds the same. silver forest still stuck in the past. but this track is from the past so it get a pass. somehow i find this track funny. lol it's ok 6.5/10 bonus point for ancient track IRON ATTACK - Sturm und Drang I saw Ken's post and i feel intimidated. And I know some might not like the vocal(or the metal), ive met quite a lot of people like that yeah. I myself have acquired the taste of iron. The Japonism is a nice touch, perhaps it activated my inner weebiness. but seriously this feels amazing. Ive been a big fan of metal with traditional folk, and this not just usual metal but heroic metal, y'know like Dragonforce. It gives a nice contrast. i will call this genre Samurai music :thumbsup:. this has been the one of the best japanese folk metal ive heard. yes there has been some attempt before but i dont think it's this amazing. 9.5/10 amazing, would repeat a lot found myslef holding back the 10 for unexplainable reason. probably because i have another favorite from iron attack that I'd prefer listening to. unrelated but if you watch One Piece, this song reminds me of Wano Arc. Akatsuki Records - Gray Zone ah yes THE Stack, I'm allowed to be really picky with this one. I thought this was gonna be Stack Ballad, BUT NO! *changes to funk pop* they did this with Treasure Cirno i felt betrayed, heartbroken! Challenge: Stack letting the instruments to shine (impossible) oh ok it got calmer so nice funk pop is still nice but the betrayal! The lyric composition is quite strange, especially the overuse of shifting language. the sentence supposed to be one coherent line, but it switch between Japanese and 援護. Usually the secondary language is used to emphasize key words, but 違う it seem これ using it as it pleases, i find it quite 気持ち悪い. 7/10 im hurt but enjoying try searching Akatsuki Records Ballad in youtube, you will find great results. (i may or may not submitted a stack ballad to the tourney before) it's winter i recommend Cyanotype, it's even a proper ballad with storytelling.
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  34. Honestly I feel like this is something that is talked about a lot around the internet, especially with how generations are constantly critiquing on older or newer generations on how they act. Personally, I think the focus on Japanese culture is a good and bad thing, to which I'm going to break up for clarity. The Good The Bad Spread of Culture Conclusion
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  35. Happy New Year! Hope it's been good for you so far! So, over the last year, you've talked a lot about pieces of Touhou media you've gotten into. Some you've made posts about, and some not. (Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Hifuu Club Activity Record, by the way.) Anyways, what I wanted to ask is "If you had to choose a favorite piece of Touhou media, official or unofficial, what would it be?" Artwork, music, video, animation, game; the sky's the limit. Just something that you'll always hold near and dear to your heart from Touhou Project. And, if you're feeling spicy for it, how about the flip-side: "What piece of Touhou media do you loathe the most?" It's not enough to simply not be memorable, no; something that left a permanent scar on your soul and you hate acknowledging its existence. And, uhhh... Even though it goes against the original purpose of the thread, if you have any questions for us too, feel free to ask back. I definitely won't be making an AMA of my own, and I'd take any incentive to overcome my "one-post-per-thread" habit I'm trying to break this year.
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  36. I actually have a question, if that's alright! So, where did you get the name CountVonNumeror from? And also, who's the person in your pfp? It seems like a art of some kind of soldier, colonel or someone like that, so i got kinda curious! Happy new year =D
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  37. This seems like a nice thread to start the year! I have two questions for you, if that's alright! What other video game franchises would you consider to have a substantial impact on your life? Are there any particular countries you would like to travel to in the future?
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  38. I want to reiterate (because my roundabout way of explanation is not always easy to interpret) that I greatly admire Stack's vocal abilities, and more often than not I enjoy the arrangements I hear from Akatsuki Records. It was this particular performance that I disliked, not her general sound. RT4, Round 4 ~ Entry 2: Akatsuki Records - The Way Home We Walked On Together
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  39. Guess it's been a while, huh? 2022's been a rocky year for me and things haven't been smooth for me but I manged to pull through. I've been more active on discord though I've been less active due to my depression and although I've gotten help with my current mental health problems I'm still dealing with my anxiety and it's been difficult for me to talk to people online. I will try to work things out this year but it'll take some time.
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  40. Introduction to Touhou for Newbies You've never once before played Touhou? Well, we're not here to look down on you for it - this section is here to teach you how it all works, starting with a basic concept introduction, followed by instructions on how to actually get started and play! Subsections on This Page * What is Touhou? * Aren't these in Japanese? * Getting Started * How to Play * Reading the Screen * Pickups & Automatic Collection * Focusing & the Hitbox * Focused Fire vs. Unfocused Fire * Bombing * Moedan What is "Touhou?" Touhou is an extremely popular series of vertical shooting games of the "bullet hell" or "curtain fire" variety, also known as "danmaku," where enemies not only shoot directly at you, but also fire patterned bullets to weave through. Created by Zun, the Touhou game series entails an ongoing story of events set in the fictional realm of Gensokyo, revolving mostly -though not entirely - around incidents regarding the main character, Reimu Hakurei, and the Hakurei Shrine. The series is best-known for its beautiful bullet patterns, seamless story development, and intriguing character interactions; like typical RPGs, character personalities are well-developed, considering the game type, and the dialogue is infused with both drama and humor, making Touhou fun not only in the combat aspect, but also interesting to watch unfold. Aren't these in Japanese? Originally, yes. However, we save you some trouble by pre-applying English patches when they are available, especially when it comes to the official games. (They also come ready-to-play; no need to use potentially confusing methods to use an .iso file to install them.) Getting Started The stories may differ, but how you actually begin playing never does. Every shooting game in the series always asks the same three things before you get started: 1) Difficulty Selection The first thing you're asked to do after hitting "Start Game" is to select your difficulty level (seeing as not everybody is able to walk in the rain without getting wet when they first start). All Touhou games come with four selectable levels of difficulty to choose from: - Easy - Normal - Hard - Lunatic 2) Character Selection There are two or three (or occasionally more) characters interested in resolving the game's incident, and you're asked to choose which one you'd like to play as. Reimu and Marisa are always available choices, and in recent games, Sanae has started making regular appearances, alongside other characters in some cases. Different characters, as you'd expect, have different shot types. 3) Shot Type Selection After you've chosen your character, you're asked to select from two or three shot types that character has to further customize your experience (except in specific games where characters only have one shot type, in which case this step is skipped). Once you choose a shot type, you're whisked away to the gameplay screen, where play begins!! How to Play Now you have to know how to control yourself, yes? Here's how it works: Menu Keys (All Games) [Z]: Confirm [X]: Cancel [Esc]: Pause Shooting Game Controls You'll use the bottom key row in addition to the arrows for movement: [Z]: Fire [X]: Bomb [Shift]: Focus Photography Game Controls If you wanna play "Shoot the Bullet", "Double Spoiler" or "Violet Detector", here's how it's done: [Z]: Shutter(Hold to display viewfinder, release to snap.) [Shift]: Focus (Hold Focus & Shutter to speed-charge camera.) [X]: Flip orientation of frame ("Double Spoiler" only) Fighting Game Controls Playing IaMP, SWR and UNL is more complicated than shooting straight up, of course; it makes active use of six keys on two rows. Only SWR and UNL use the spell card buttons. [Z]: Melee [X]: Weak Projectile [C]: Strong Projectile [A]: Dash Great Fairy Wars Controls Since you can freeze stuff, it controls differently from the other games: [C]: Auto-Fire [Shift]: Focus [Z]: Freeze (must hold briefly to charge first) [X]: Bomb Reading the Screen On the left is the playfield, of course. On the right is the information panel, which keeps you informed of your remaining lives and spell cards (bombs), current power level, and other things like your score. A game's unique counters (such as Cherry Points in "Perfect Cherry Blossom") are usually displayed in the lower-left corner of the playfield (as is the case for the UFOs in "Undefined Fantastic Object," as shown in this screenshot). If you're playing a game from any modern era, the difficulty level you're playing on is also prominently displayed somewhere on the right side of the screen. Pickups & Automatic Collection Along with enemy bullets, as you destroy enemies, the screen also becomes populated with all sorts of pickups; there are unique ones in some games (those are explained in the individual games' sections), but in every one of them you'll run into these two things: Power-Ups. Obviously, it's a good thing to have tons of firepower, and this is how you get it. Collect power-ups to gradually increase your firepower (items bigger in size are, of course, worth more power). In classic titles, you start at 0, and max firepower is 128 points, increasing your firepower every 32 points; in most modern games, you start at 1.0, the max is 4.0, and your firepower increases every whole number. Point items. These add to your score, and are worth more points the higher up on the screen you collect them. In classic titles, they're something like coins from "Super Mario Bros," in that when you collect enough, you're automatically awarded an Extend (extra life), though in modern titles, they simply add to your score (which, depending upon exactly which game, may or may not have much to do with getting extends). There are two other fairly commonplace pickups that appear in more than one game, so I'll explain: Spell Card (Bomb). It doesn't matter whether it's a large star with an "S" or a smaller square with a "B" on it, if it's green and looks important, it does the same thing - it adds one spell card (bomb) to your stock. (These don't appear in games where bombing costs you a power level instead of coming from a separate stock of bombs.) Life Pieces. In some modern-era Touhou games, you can collect 5 of these hollow stars to directly earn an Extend; they're dropped by bosses and minibosses in some games, and also dropped by red UFOs (in "Undefined Fantastic Object," of course). Automatic Collection of Items: It can be hard to keep up with all the items floating down the screen, so when there's a small lull or a good opening, there's another way to collect items. In all Touhou games, there is a point about 4/5 of the way up the screen called the Point of Collection, or POC for short. If you manage to maneuver your character above that line, you automatically collect all items that are currently on-screen. Some modern games are even nice enough to tell you at the beginning of stage 1 exactly where the POC is (as shown here in UFO). Focusing & the Hitbox When you hold the Shift button, your character Focuses. This has three very important benefits: 1) It visibly displays your hitbox (the part of your character's graphical sprite which, when a bullet hits it, actually makes you die; more below). 2) It slows your character down for precision movement. 3) It switches your character from unfocused fire to focused fire (more on that below). Focusing is what makes weaving through seemingly impossible bullet patterns possible. If you can squeeze that tiny dot between two bullets, you live, regardless of if bullets are touching any other parts of your character's sprite. Focused Fire vs. Unfocused Fire Firing while Focused and firing while unfocused are very different, and it's important to know how to use each to your advantage. Unfocused fire allows your character's full movement speed, and generally revolves around area coverage; you get good crowd control this way without much effort. Unfocused fire is generally used for stage enemies, but can also be useful for bosses who move around a lot. Focused fire slows you down for precision movement, and your character will concentrate their fire directly above themselves (well, in most cases, anyway) to cause maximum possible damage to a single target. For obvious reasons, focused fire is the generally preferred way of battling bosses, but can also deal with pesky normal enemies. Bombing It is pretty obvious to any newbie that using a spell card (bomb) causes massive damage to everything onscreen. However, the point many players emphasize on using bombs is that they clear all enemy bullets from the screen - in other words, rather than bombing to cause damage, players prefer to bomb when they get themselves into a situation they cannot get out of any other way, thus being able to continue on instead of dying. Characters generally start with 2 bombs, and can acquire more by grabbing spell card pickups, though they'll also be given their default 2 bombs back when they die if they died with less than 2 bombs in stock. Be warned that some games in the series do not differentiate your bomb stock, and instead cost one Power level to use (which ones are noted in the indivdual games' entry). Moedan Moedan is a training game for newcomers to Touhou. You play as Flandre Scarlet and are given two spellcard options: Wide Shot and Linear Shot. For game information and for download links, please check the following page: Moedan
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    It has an Okuu cursor, 5/5 very cute
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  41. me too at first (nice drawing btw) Btw I forgot to say there is something that gets me very frustrated : nobody cares about canon design of Koakuma, Daiyousei or even Okuu (there’s smol atoms around her ankle)
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  42. 1. Tsubaki is a really hit or miss circle with their songs for me but, this one goes to the latter... I really like the vocals there and it really reminds me of Foreground Eclipse, Kachi Kachi Yama, Shinigiwa Satellite or Takamachi Walk style. I personally like the screamo and i also really cherish that theme sooo.. 9/10 2. This reminds me more of a OST that could be used in some game, especially western-themed one it starts of nice but starts to get quite repetitive and without any changes in the strucutre whatsoever. Sometimes it's a good thing but for me personally in this case, it's not... 6/10 3. Ooh. This one is lengthy. I am really not a big fan of "pure ambient" though... I like when it has other genres weaved in and these kind of songs are usually long and are also journey of some kind... This one is also eerie, i like it but... It's not enough to carry the whole track. 5/10
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  43. Honestly, this is the first time when I hear anyone comparing anime to soap opera, and therefore I m feeling a little surprised of the comparison. Especially when, at least here in Romania, we understand "soap opera" through the word "telenovela". But if you mean the idea of mass-production and repetitive plots/plot elements, then I may be able to see the similarity. I really have not though that the Japanese themselves would actually have problems with anime. Especially how popular and seemingly everywhere it is while walking on the streets of their big cities. As for quality stuff, I am still looking for something to start from. Yet I am not sure what anime series to start up with. I have watched all 17 episodes of Memories of Phantasm, the TeamFourStar Abridged version of Hellsing Ultimate, and was planning to watch the anime adaptation of Amagami. I will come back to this one a bit later in the reply, when I will attach some media recommendations for the continuing of the discussion. And again, this is why I am looking for some recommendation, or better said a starting point if I want to explore the medium. The entire idea of this thread started last year, based on a thread that was over 2 years ago. I have been writing on this topic since I am unfamiliar with anime, had never watched an anime or read a manga before, and just could not understand the sheer hate the entire medium of Japanese production has been receiving online on different forums. And from there, the original ("Part I") version of the thread. There are a few things I may have understood from here, and I have the feeling that all of them might be wrong. Could you please elaborate some more in here? Especially in the part related to ZUN. Interesting take, especially hearing from someone who draws (I have seen your drawings in the past, they are very good). Most of the time, I have not thought about the anime art style being lacking in originality, but at a closer inspection, there may actually be reasons for the claim. But to be honest, I completely lack artistic culture, and have quite a hard time processing a drawing more than just "I like this" or "neuron activation". I just like something, and do not actually understand why I like it. Besides, I already explained in a previous thread how I even ended up in the anime area, s well as orienting my drawing style towards anime despite lacking any sort of basis even in basic drawing. Again, I would really like to hear a lot more about the topic of the art style in itself, as well as more on the ideas you have expressed. Well, there was originally this thread: I have used Safebooru in the past, for about half a year. However, I got really bored of it, and after getting more used to the nature of content on Danbooru, I ended up preferring to use that board instead of the safe board. I am very sure Danbooru has way more content than Safebooru, even within the safe for work images. I guess it is a small price to pay for getting to all the delicious content.... Alright, in regards to the annex content I was talking about. @_.Mevs I think you will be finding these interesting, especially if connecting with your recent thread. There are 3 videos I find very relevant for the discussion, and I would like to share them. I am warning you from the start though, the longest one of them is over an hour long. The two are 40, respectively 16 minutes long. 1) This one starts on a bit of a joke note - how would an anime girl look like if you were to build one in real life. Th results are... kind of expected. However, in the second half, it suddenly turns into a psychological discussion about why we like waifus and what happens inside our brain. At least if I remember well (it's been over a year since I last watched the video): 2) The 1 hour and 15 minutes long video on the whole concept of "waifu" and "waifu-ism". A very interesting overview of the history of the concept, how it evolved in anime, as well as some of the pitfalls some series might be falling into when they design a series around a moe character instead of the characters as part of a series: 3) From the same author, again an analysis video, but on the concept of fanservice. A brief history of how it appeared and evolved in anime, accompanied by some examples of good and bad use of fanservice. And just like before, a discussion on why people may have a problem with the whole concept. I have found the entire section discussing about the reception of fanservice very interesting, as well as that in which the author mentioned the Hayes Code (which I never knew before), that may have put the United States 30 years in the past with the evolution of animation and themes approached (I have doubts though that the rest of the world outside Japan has a more liberal view on nudity and sexuality, or at least not as open as that of the "Sunrise Land"). The video about fanservice is actually very relevant, given that I have talked quite a lot about Touhou Memories of Phantasm around Christmas, as well as the use of this tool in that anime. Bonus, a lot of very quotable sentences: "I am of the firm belief that you should just mentally increase the age of any anime character by like three years because it'll make the show better. Ain't no way that Okabe this scruffy looking college dude is meant to be 18. This man is clearly like 25." (in reference to a scene presented on screen) "But hey sometimes these are just children you're showing me. That is a fucking child. I don't care if age is just a number. That number is 9-1-1 you should be in fucking prison [Ladies and gentlemen, we got him starts playing]" (in regards to another fanservice scene of more questionable nature, featuring the classic "9000 year old loli" trope) The comment section also offered some very good replies for this latter video: "The thing that really turns me off of fanservice is the recurring theme of “against their will”. SOOOO much fanservice in anime is women being exposed, groped, viewed, or straight up assaulted against their will, and it’s always played for lighthearted fun. Even shows where fanservice fun is the entire point focus mainly on girls being unwillingly sexualized, with male consequences (if any) portrayed as a simple punchline. Female characters who are proactively sexual seem to be rare (not nonexistent, but heavily outnumbered by sexy girls who don’t want to be sexualized)" "I never watched fire force, but based on what was shown here I don't think any subversion of trope could've saved that Tamaki character. Her entire thing apparently is existing to be harassed "by accident" over and over again. So even in the scenes where this somehow makes her win a fight and makes her opponent look ridiculous, she's still being harassed and humiliated and dehumanized. She's the most exaggerated example of why I've been so turned off by anime for a while and still am very cautious with what I watch. They have to include a woman being harassed for laughs at least once in so many shows and it gets fucking old really quick" (the video used Fire Force as an example of fanservice executed poorly and in improper moments) "I think it also bears mentioning that a lot of the arguments against fan service aren’t against sexuality in media, but rather specifically, the objectification of women, and portraying sexual harassment as something that is funny or light hearted. I see a lot of people not realizing that watching someone being objectified, can make the viewer feel objectified." "From what I've seen, sex and nudity in anime is never seen as intimate or a sign of trust. Sex is depicted and silly, lewd, and depraved. It's treated both as a punchline and as a gesture. Personally, I think sex and nudity in anime should be like the James bond films where they only happen if there is an actual scene of intimacy/intercourse, which never happens in anime." "I think when you were contrasting Kill la Kill to Fire Force you hit the nail on the head for me for what makes me totally chill about fanservice vs not liking it. As a woman who's watched hundreds of series, I went through a phase where I didn't mind fanservice at all because I was so desencitized to it, to it being incredibly annoying, to now trying to look at it in a more balanced way. The two things that break fanservice for me is consent and tone. Fan service for comedy or in romance shows is perfect. Not when it interrupts really impactful moments. But consent is the biggest element to me now. Consent is why I loved Dress Up Darling and why characters like Yoruichi from Bleach are amazing. Consent is why I thought Food Wars was genius when I first saw it. And consent is why I don't want to put up with ecchi shows that cheaply disrespect their characters." (oh yeah, Food Wars and Kill la Kill were used as an example of well executed fanservice) "I've seen people use the term "perv pandering" to specifically refer to the sexual type of fanservice. I always preferred that term. It feels more accurate because as a fan, often those sorts of scenes feel like a disservice to me." "Honestly I think the biggest issue you run into with fanservice is how insidious and unexpected it can be. You've got some shows that are right out there with the fact that this is what you're getting, but then there are others marketing themselves as Serious Anime, or even Art Pieces, and you get two episodes in and it's actually another box of Whoops, All Titties. This leads a lot of people in that "I like fanservice when it's in its place/unintrusive" to just...not be able to trust anime at large. The other bit is when it's lazy. There are a lot of showrunners who clearly don't think much of their audience, because they're sure we'll be content with "plot" instead of plot, when unfortunately for them the truth is most of us are well aware of great shows that have both. The idea that a non-porn show doesn't have to be engaging if it's sexy enough is just...incorrect. But it seems like writers fall for this idea all the time." "As a "not cis male" anime watcher my biggest problem with it is when it's very obviously non-consensual (like Tamaki). ESPECIALLY when the characters are clearly minors (middle and high schoolers often get this treatment) And seeing characters of my own demographic getting hyper-sexualised in these ways is extremely dehumanizing and feels very rape-y. One example is the bathroom scene in Konosuba S1, I've genuinely never felt so uncomfortable watching an anime scene, and I've seen some messed up shit. Having a very real problem get used for laughs is degrading. But I've given up on shows like Fire Force solely because of the fanservice. I don't expect many male anime watchers to fully understand just how awfully this content can affect us, but I'd love to hear it be acknowledged as this kind of media trivializes things like assault and objectification." "The most off-putting part of fanservice for me is when it’s inappropriately done to extremely underage looking female characters… and the quickest example I can give is No Game No Life" "I remember watching Kill La Kill and Ryuko being extremely embarrassed when she transformed. Throughout the show she learns to accept Senketsu and embrace her power growing as character. I don't know, seeing a lot of crazy fanservice in anime that just felt forced, it was pretty interesting to see the whole trope flipped on its head. Sits as one of my favourite shows because of it." "I usually dislike fanservice because it often ruins the tone or otherwise breaks immersion. That said Kill La Kill is my favorite anime of all time. It brilliantly subverts and incorporates the trope while managing to keep an interesting story and endearing characters. It's flashy, over the top, and surprisingly earnest. It has a distinct style that's shamelessly fun, and the goofy fanservice fits in seamlessly with all the epic shots and hectic animation." "Part of the reason why I'm put off by fanservice is that more and more anime rely on it. It's not just the occasional moment to de-escalate tensions, that in itself tends to be fine. It happens so often both within singular titles and within the anime roster as a whole to the point that it feels overdone. There are times where it makes sense, such as Ranma 1/2 and Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt where they serve as part of the premise. The former uses it occasionally and has other jokes and action happening to desaturate the fanservice; the latter tells you in the title that the fanservice is the premise but is surprisingly good with action scenes that HAPPEN to have mature jokes rather than relying solely on said jokes. What I didn't like about Interspecies Reviewers was that the fanservice was everything: the joke, the plot (even the overarching one towards the end), the motivation of the characters. While funny at times, it ruined my sense of immersion because I couldn't stop thinking about how a society could function with so many 'adult workers' (the series itself establishes that cross-breeding with succubi over generations has basically resulted in the industry). As a result, the world in which these characters reside lacks depth and the main cast lack any actual defining character traits. And that's what I feel is happening with a lot of titles: they push fanservice to the point of absurdity that cheapens the overall experience." "Personally I get really put off (almost grossed) by almost all fan service, even stuff like Food Wars’. But I can still recognize what good and bad implementation of nudity is and definitely agree on every part there. But my main gripe isn’t shows with fan service, good or bad, even if it ruins the story because I can avoid those. It’s how fan service makes talking about anime with people who don’t watch it a lot more awkward. What I love are good stories, comedic or dramatic moments, beautiful scenery and memorable characters, no matter the medium. Anime has a lot of that which is why I watch a lot of anime, not because of the lewd content but it’s weird justifying it in conversations with people who have never seen an anime before." "The last time fanservice seriously put me off was Fire Force. I’m no prude but something about the “against her will” element really turned me off to the point of finding it unbearable. The scenes with Tamaki border on sexual harassment as she is undressed and groped; She cries and feels humiliated. It’s not like it’s fun for her… I’m not usually too bothered by fanservice but I can say this one actually kind of disturbed me" "The first anime i watched fully was Highschool DXD. I was shocked about how much fanservice was in there. Then I went on to look at other things, but looking back at it I would say that it was a good start because it didn't get in the way of the story and fit due to Issei being a literal pervert but he isn't just a pervert" "It's nice to see a detailed take on fanservice and proper examples not only for and against it, but just showing how rooted it is in the medium. However, i feel like my own personal tastes are still way too against it - even with this knowledge - to really tolerate it again. I wish it weren't so, but it's just not something I'm interested in seeing. One would say maybe I'm just not an anime kinda guy, and that may be true ... but I guess the better thing to do would be to keep looking. I'm sure there's a ton of good anime out there still that doesn't really try to do anything with it ... so long as I keep digging" "To me, I always groan whenever the kind of fanservice pop up that is just in the way of the plot and trying to do things for cheap laughs. I kinda liken it to the jump-scare in horror games. Its cheap and easy and just get's a simple instinctual reaction out of the viewer. Nothing that was made with actual thought that sticks with you. The one fanservice scene I can say was well done was the second dance scene between Ledo and Amy in Suisei No Gargantaia. That one was a wonderful moment of character building and was just sweet overall. The whole thing being set to the background of auroras and a gentle flute melody really sold it" "I feel like you can have nudity or forced feeling fanservice in an anime but it needs to feel natural. Like in Ghost in The Shell the beginning of the movie you literally see her entire naked body but it'a done in a way that's supposed to be tasteful. Fanservice is totally fine in anime and if people like the anime they like because of it then more power to them, but when it's overdone and so forced it sometimes just makes me roll my eyes and it's one of the reasons I'm really not into most anime" "Maybe this is just me, but I usually dislike fan service in animes because a lot of times it’s women in embarrassing/ humiliating situations - it’s never done to make them feel cool or be in power (I’ve only seen it to be the case in rare situations). I would feel so much comfortable if they were fine with it and enjoying themselves. Many times they’re shown as innocent beings who’re not realising they’re turning the guys on by accidentally flashing them their underwears etc. Honestly, I just want the women who’re doing fan service to do it because they want to and feel like it, and I want their characters to have their own arch’s and be well developed and not there just for fan service. Erza from fairy tail was my favourite character because of this while I hated Lucy." "The tonal dissonance comes from the fact that the creators don't expect horniness to distract from the heroic fantasy of the story; they expect that it's supposed to enhance it, which is mostly only possible if you see the character more as a sex object and a trophy to be won, rather than a person who has just suffered trauma and is emotionally distraught. The problem is that you have more empathy for her than the creators expected, but that's not your mistake." (again, in reference to Fire Force) "Y'know, when you started talking about shows that weaved fanservice into the narrative, I thought back to a show for which I did fansub translations -- it was called Yumeria. And yeah, it definitely wove fanservice into the narrative; the core premise is that these overly endowed girls and a few lolis gain super powers to fight monsters by being groped by the MC. Yeah... seriously. The thing is that the narrative is overall weak and the show tries to mix in too much and it gets overall confused... like they try to fit in a conventional teen romance storyline, and then a love... parallelogram. And in the middle, the lolis sink back from being lolis to just being ordinary kids who want to be kids. And in all of it, somehow, sexual assault as a form of recharging warriors' batteries still has to drive a sci-fi narrative. The end result is that an attempt to use fanservice intelligently only gets lost and no longer appears intelligent at all. One example that I love is Mushoku Tensei. There are loads of sex jokes, typical fanservice tropes, lewd inner thoughts, all of the things that people hate, but the MC actually matures throughout the series and so, too, does the application of the fanservice. It becomes less and less out of hand and less and less out of place progressively throughout the show." "I don't mind mild fan service when it fits the mood/situation. When it takes you out of the moment for some cheap sex sale, it's really hard for me to continue watching. Like you said, it destroys the tension they were just building. There are a lot, a LOT, of series that don't do this and it's great but I wish that the "time and place for everything" was taken to heart a little more. To clarify further. I don't think there should be NO fan servive. Just because I'm not a fan of it doesn't mean other people can't have it." "Man this video gave me so much to think about regarding anime fan service. Like you just glossed over it but that fact that magical girl anime often seem to cross the line into some form of nudity frustrates me and it starts to make sense considering the lines you can trace from them back to cutie honey. You also had a pretty strong stance about how fan service can be used well or poorly, which was provoking. But it still felt like a bit of a generalization. Like there’s probably been thousands of attempts in writing and video to address why some people (ie in America) are more comfortable seeing extreme violence and gore than skin or nudity. But it still felt like a bit of an oversimplification to say the whole community is being immature by not liking nudity in anime." "The thing people fail to understand is that anime and manga are not 'art', and few of them try very much to BE 'art'. It's popular entertainment for a Japanese audience. I'm not saying that the mangaka/anime writers never have a thought in their head while creating their work, but the whole thing is very business-driven. Anime and Manga is like if Pulp Fiction never died off, or like if Western Comics never 'grew up'. A lot of manga magazines have reader votes or reader surveys, which can heavily influence the content of the manga in the magazine. If a series does not thrill an audience in any way, it gets axed. And what's an easy way to thrill an audience when you've got nothing else up your sleeve? Fanservice! When there's a slump in sales or votes, the mangaka and the editor/s they work with tend to do some hasty course correction to bring back the hype. Some mangaka do some hard thinking and rework the story. Others just say "hmm, I guess it just needs more fanservice next time..." "I’m not against romantic or sexy scenes/situations in anime. If you’ve ever seen/read Tokyo Ghoul, I think the way they handled that scene with Kaneki and Touka was beautiful. Especially in the manga. Everything was consensual, amazingly, with Touka even initiating it. Kaneki didn’t force, grope or pressure her for anything. He treated her like a person, like he cared, and was considerate of her the whole time. I thought he was very sweet, more than what you’d even get in shoujo/josei anime/manga most of the time, and this was a seinen. The audience still got their skin shots, but Touka was never reduced to body parts and strange sounds. It’s the absurd, perverse and even cruel ways fanservice is done that’s the problem. And that the female characters entire purpose is for sexual stimulation. I don’t see how it could possibly hurt to show the male characters treating the female characters with more care, decency and empathy. And for the female characters to offer MORE than just sexual arousal. Surely this would only be a benefit." "100% agree about Tamaki. almost quit the show over her first "pervert" scene. i know other people get semi nude but they never "accidently" have hands laid on their genitals as a joke." (again, in reference to the Fire Force segment) "My biggest issue with sexual fanservice in anime are more the ones where the "women" are incredibly infantilized (or straight up are young girls)... which, unfortunately is most of them." "The sort of sexual, exploitative fanservice is really what has kept me out of getting into anime as a whole, and it’s really unfortunate. There’s so much wonderful, quality content, but there have also been so many occasions when I start a show and I’m disappointed by unnecessary tiddie shots and objectification of female characters. Watching it as a woman completely takes me out of it and it’s so frustrating. I just want to watch something interesting without having to worry about being reminded of how the world views women as pieces of meat." "This video really changed my perspective in fanservice. I'm the type of person who avoids an anime the moment I notice a big titty character or skimpy clothing 'cause there's only one way that goes to, sexualization. Kill la Kill was one of those animes. I never planned on watching it, but after your explanation on how the fanservice in the show is used, it genuinely sounds like an anime I would enjoy. I guess I got unlucky on my first introduction to it. The posts I've seen on it were people being those background characters of men having nosebleeds, jaws on the floor. Some fan's (most likely male) posts completely ignore the whole point of "empowering sexuality" and talk about how "submissive an breedable they soooo look" instead. The whole rape joke and fetish all over again. Even when the anime was talking about how empowering sexuality can be, they still somehow only see it as their porno to come back to. I do plan on watching Kill la Kill after this though. Good vid and explanation over all." "Personally I think that the “anime is trash and so am I” thing is not about fan-service and nudity, but about the bottom of the barrel filth storytelling that floods the medium, like Asterisk War, or Slave Harem in the Labyrinth of another world" "For me, the bad part of fanservice is simply the tonal dissonance, and the morally questionable, for example: Clearly underage characters experiencing it, non-consensual, and intrusive to the story. In general I don't like it, but that's what I hate the most if it happens" "Your explanation of how Fire Force perpetuates fanservice negativity is perfect! I'm all for fun ridiculous fanservice, sexual expression, and sex positivity but when it's literally ruining the character's legitimacy within that world it's being done wrong. The other thing that becomes problematic in a lot of anime is when women are portrayed as unintelligent, always needing to rely on the male protagonist, or just not being capable in almost any capacity" "Not really. This is one of those situations where discussing something from within the fandom does a disservice to the complexities. In Japan, the concept of "service" predates anime and is everywhere throughout the culture. For example, before Cutie Honey we have idols, who are packaged and presented in a very similar way as anime. Especially in the 1970s, it was common for most female stars to present "fan service" in the form of nude or gravure photography. In the 1960s the film genre called "Pink film" started, where almost every woman had nude scenes, even if they were a major actor/protagonist. Within the world of adult entertainment, prostitution, etc, it's always been common practice to refer to these things as "service". The word is wildly used this way in Japan. "Fan service", is a slang that developed somewhat alongside anime, but denotes services which are done complimentary, or for free for the fans. And in Japanese we use this word all the time to refer to risky/suggestive things. Even 30 years ago it's normal ask a girl to give you "service" as a euphemism for perverted stuff. Explaining "fan service" in this way hyper focuses this to anime industry, when this is a wider, older and much more engrained cultural phenomenon in Japan. This is not anime, this is Japanese culture." "You didn't touch on the biggest problem with fan service, which is how lead R18 scenes in anime that rarely impact the plot and fuel, while not the majority, a large group of R18 culture male anime fans, especially in the Philippines and Japan. Fan service birthed Legend of the Archfiend, Redo of Healer and the excessive amount of R18 in Berserk that didn't fuel the plot and the one that did was completely trumped by making Casca basically brain dead and a target for it to be attempted on her again." "Although it's nice to see empowerment through sexualization every once in a while, I wish that wasn't the ONLY form of empowerment that gets talked about when it comes to anime. As a woman who's male friends watch a lot of anime, I'm very picky with what I watch because the way women are generally depicted in shows. Not just the sexualization, but the lack of meaningful stories, the lack of detail on the woman experience, the lack of the woman perspective on relationships. I don't want the only shows that empower women to be through extreme fanservice that they are aware of, although those shows themselves are good. I agree with including fanservice in a good way, and a big part of that is through the equality of it and "not just the hot girls" like you said for food wars, and fanservice that also fits the tone of the story. BUT! I dislike the disregard of it being male pandering because definitely, most of time, it's only for men, or maaayyyybe wlw. As a woman, seeing jiggly boobs, even in a "good" way, throughout the entire show without anything coming from the opposite sex, is unappealing. It's fanservice for male fans, not fans in general. I'm not against nudity in shows, live action or animated. But for say, live action fantasy shows showing misogyny through overused explicit rape scenes, I still don't appreciate it. I think this video essay would have been a lot more insightful if it delved deeper into a woman's perspective on anime. Throughout the entire thing, women's perspectives and psyche are talked about as a hypothetical, a concept, a mystical idea that takes aot to understand, but not a simple, real thing that can be put off by these shows. If you ever do a part two, I'd love for you to feature a woman who is an anime enthusiast where the two of you can have a discussion on this topic. Is extreme but self aware sexualization always empowering? Even if the fanservice is good for plot, is it still fun for a woman to watch a bunch of jiggling boobs on screen? Definitely feel like this was a huge missed topic." "I have only one minor gripe with this essay, and it's in the fire force section and was when talking about how Tamaki being borderline nude while begging Shinra to save her after having her clothes burnt off took away from the tension. My issue is simply that I believe it's a disservice to say it is less impactful, I haven't personally seen Fire Force but I do dabble in narrative artistry and the decision to have her not regain any form of dignity is a conscious one to show how desperate she is in that moment, she's vulnerable and weak at that point and relying on the only one of her team mates there to help her. I believe this because my basic assumption is that between her having her clothes burnt off for the gag, which I agree is distracting since she was already on the side and there was no need to poke fun at her, and her begging Shinra there was a small fight. The joke had time to make it's exit before the focus returned to her. I could be wrong about the timescale but the way the video addressed it made it seem like there was some time between the two events though that would be exclusively for the viewer. Cinematic time as it were. I pretty much agree with everything else, it is pretty bad to see a character's potential wasted for a joke regardless of context be it the weak coward archetype who doesn't ever get stronger or the overtly sexualized token girl." "Something I notice in all the clips featuring Tamaki is that she seems pretty mortified by being exposed in these ways. But, if this really is a curse that she's been afflicted with for God knows how long, shouldn't she be used to it by now? Shouldn't her coworkers? I think it could have present some interesting opportunities to have her be numb to her curse or even just begrudgingly used to it. At the very least, I think it would have gone a long way towards allowing the fanservice to exist without being so tonally dissonant. Honestly, that kind of compulsory embarrassment which is so common in anime fanservice scenes is a good example of the immaturity you refer to near the ending. The Ur example of this is the "walk-in" trope, where a character — usually a male — walks in on another — usually female — character and reacts extremely and often violently embarrassed. What always gets me about such scenes is the compulsory aspect of it, as if it were impossible for a person to react any other way. It's so ubiquitous that, when it is subverted in any way, viewers (myself included) almost always express relief that something different finally happened. It ultimately just comes down to how thoughtless most creators' treatment of sexuality is. They really seem to struggle with integrating sexuality into their characters in non-cliché ways, and allowing that integration to be informed by their a character's personality, rather than (what I can only assume) are deep-seated cultural notions about propriety and decency — i.e. Tamaki can't be too blasé about being exposed, or else certain viewers might become judgmental or disapproving, but that's opening a bag of worms I am not well-informed enough to open. Really, it's just disheartening to think that so many creators just seem unwilling to do anything interesting or unique with this subject matter." "I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring, so lets start off and say that yes I am a straight male and yes I do enjoy fanservice okay moving on. I find anime girls to be attractive, they are usually drawn that way for a reason, and as long as there's a distinct line between when its okay and not okay for fanservice then why not their fictional characters and I don't think its harming anyone. That being said, why does nezuko's boobs get bigger in her deomon form, and yes I've heard the excuse that it makes her seem older and more mature to show that shes transformed, but like the horns already do that and like even if I agree to the previous statement they don't need to be so noticeable. And then there's Marin Kitigawa, I liked dress up darling but lady really couldn't tell that she was making gojo uncomfortable or the fact that she's stripping in front of him! Giving a female character some extra cake is effectively the same as giving a male a 6 pack, its just a hint of fanservice that doesn't disrupt the show, fanservice might even enhance it in the case of chainsaw man. But Asuna falling onto kirito so he can grope her has no reason in existing. There, that's my defense and prosecution of fanservice, same time next week." "I'm pretty disappointed that you didn't really talk about the huge issue most people have with fanservice. yes, you mentioned it in passing, but not until heavily into the video. What I'm referring to is that, most if not all fan service is just sexual assault/harassments. That most fan service is extremely triggering to SA victims, how in animes where there's non consensual sexualization, the writers have no interest in showing the deep psychological repercussions that come with SA. It always "oops haha I'm so embarrassed that you explicitly touched me, anyways i dont care anymore" whereas normal humans will be scarred by that for years even. Another thing that you only grazed over that's a huge part of the problematic with fan service is the minor element. Many MANY animes sexualize minors, most MC in shonen and popular anime are in high school. MINORS. It not just something to gaslight yourself into thinking its fine because they look older than their actual age. these characters are in school uniforms, going to class, living with parents, summer break, etc. The characters are not only "technically" minors but are portrayed in their lives, clothing, scenes, and mental dilemmas as such. Last thing I wish you had spoken about is the "male gaze" and how in american film analysis that this sexualization of strictly feminine characters is detrimental to the character itself. I do appreciate your research into Kill L Kill because you mentioned how the way they used fan service in that anime was to empower the women instead of degrade them.(not quite a subversion of the male gaze but more a satire) Long story short, if your going to do a video essay on a deep dive into fan service you should cover all bases in depth instead of passingly mentioning them. Especially since the things you passingly spoke on was very serious topics that should have given a content/trigger warning at the beginning of the video. Other than that I did enjoy your video, I just don't like important criticisms to be excluded from the conversation." "I just hate how so much fan service is with minors. It’s sexualizing children and potentially desensitizing people to predators, or thinking that it’s normal and ok to be attracted to minors. I have no issue with fan service of adult characters but that seems so rare to come across in anime. It’s mostly with teenage girls in high school. And knowing how bad sexual assault and molestation is in Japan makes watching anime with so much fan service of minors that much more uncomfortable" "The "problem" with fanservice and many people forget... Japan is the target audience of manga and anime, not the rest of the world. And they have a different view in a lot of things (lolis and shotas principally). A great example is the manga kenichi, history strongest disciple: had a great story, still had some fanservice here and there, but nothing big or anything like that... but sales were down, so what happened? At chapter 300 PUM! SUPER MEGA FANSERVICE outta nowhere... the plot which was already good (at my view point) just became secondary to making every single female naked... and not a little, but fully nude and becoming an "almost hentai" type of manga... and this let the author make a new manga about spies... which has even more fanservice and is contender for "I can't believe this is not hentai" type of manga... So yeah, Japan and sales are the ones that have the last words when it comes to what we get in this side of the world" (does anyone actually read these texts I am usually inserting into the threads and comments?) If there is anything you would like to say, I would really like to continue this discussion, or any other thread I started. I have been feeling quite alone recently, especially since there has been so little activity at the Shrine since the beginning of the year, or at least past couple weeks. And this place was one of the few where I could still communicate with other people in a civilized manner and not be berated for writing too much.
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  44. We’ve already talked about how ZUN draw mature characters didn’t we ? x) Yukari for example is supposed to look like a 20+ years old women, and all he did to make her more mature looking is to put some lipstick on her… fun fact : Yukari sometimes use a phone to talk with her shikigami, can’t she just create a gap to talk with them instead of depending on her phone ?
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  45. Don't worry friend, more apps in the desktop = more beautiful (at least in my opinion) xd
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  46. And yet there are enough people who believe Len'en is trash, and nothing more than just a bad Touhou rip-off that makes itself using through the use of "pronouns" (since no character has a defined gender/they are genderless according to the Len'en wiki)... Personally, I like the idea of this alternate universe. Also, is it wrong that I think Tsubakura is the first genderless character that I actually think is pretty? I don't think I have ever said that before. I would sure be curius to see more universes of this kind being created. Perhaps should we consider Seihou be something similar, just that as a "reversed Touhou"?
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  47. In my personal opinion, a alternate Touhou universe made by fans is amazing! It just makes me imagine, if someone made a whole universe thanks to Touhou universe inspiration, imagine if someone find out about it and make it's own universe too? It would be like a big expansion of the Touhou community and would create other communities, it would be amazing, at least for me, if more people made their own games based on Touhou universe, as a alternate universe! Btw, Len'en Project is a gorgeous game, i see potential on it, even without being that familiar with the game itself, i think it can be amazing!
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  48. Getting rid of my number 1 opp @Astrum Remi he a hater cuh don't trust him cuh real crud cuh.
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  49. Caution: dumb and bloated text below. I tried my best to write it and don't know English much. Sorry if it's not easy to understand. It's just a few words about human psychology actually. Human kind always founds something to hate at usually it is something different from the original culture or group attributes. All of this is not new: In almost every Goethe's fiction works, in even ancient text from Greece you can find exactly same hate or oppression (actually you will find whole bunch of modern things in old books like "New generation is wrong and dumber because they don't doing [insert word]", "Anyone who don't know what is [insert word] is a fool", "If you like [insert word] - you are degenerate", etc.). Just topics and entities changes for thousands years. It both local and global phenomenon. Hate to anime or Japanese notable culture will simply fall of with time and will be displaced with hate to something else. Now even Warhammer have it's own anime. People will get used to it, hating "all Japanese" will be not in trend, or all of those who was caught in motion just grew up and next generations will have something else in mind to make fun of. People will always find an enemy in their head and will group up against it. It happened countless times in all cultures from just local tribes to planet-wide socium and will happen to what you described too.
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