Gou the frog

The class is done. Here are the photo that I promised you:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tsundere Plane wearing Yukari Hat (Not coloured)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frisk seen as the PS4 exclusive "dog shrine". It looks like the

Hakurei Shrine.

Following that 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doesn't this remind you of Benben's Music Sign "Double Score"

from DDC?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure about this one but looks like something Marisa would

use?

 

In the Ps4 version, there's a dog shrine which resembles the Hakurei Shrine.

Small thing I noticed is that Aserial will call out the name of the attack like "Aserial is readying Chaos Buster" something along the lines of that. Like the Spell Card system we have in Touhou. She is the only character that does that in the game.

Papyrus is a resemblance of the ice fairy: lives in the snow biome, not too smart and fan favourite.

Asgore spear looks like Remilia's red arrow thing. (no offense) The Tsundere Plane wears a very recognizable hat of a Gensokyo sage. Yakumo Yukari. (Apologies for no photos, I'm running out of time, I've got to attend a class) 

That's all I can think off. Pardon me, if I get anything wrong. I haven't study Undertale in a long time. Well sometimes, Touhou too.

 

 

We can't forget the fact that Toby Fox is a fan of Touhou, meaning Undertale will be filled with Touhou reference! I've researched about it for a while.

Starting of with Music: I've caught on a few numbers of music while watching playthroughs of Undertale.

Megalovania: Sans's Theme awfully sounds a lot like Mima's Theme: Complete Darkness from Touhou 2.

Flowery Theme: Your Best Nightmare's 2:56 to 3:00 is similar to Koshi's Theme: Hartmann's Youkai Girl from Touhou 11

While 3:13 to 3:17 is the start of bad apple from Touhou 4: stage 3 theme.

 

I'm definitely sure that Undyne The Undying Theme contains Zunpets.

Undertale Ost: 098 - Battle Against a True Hero - YouTube , Starting from 1:55

I'm truly sure that 80% of Aserial attacks are Marisa inspired. The Stars, the lasers, the double spark.

Asriel Dreemurr - All Attacks - YouTube , reference for attacks.

 

 

 

 

That seems like Magic Space "Asteroid Belt" From IN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Light Blast "Shoot the moon" also from IN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like a "Master Spark" inspired attack to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, this one seems familiar, that's because I died to Utosho

a lot: "Subterranean Sun".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/18/2022 at 8:46 PM, Darksymphony777 said:

Honestly it does get a little ecchi (monster musume is a somewhat horny manga) a character named papi, a harpy proceeds to get groped by another character named suu who is a slime while cosplayed as okuu (suu is the costume since....well she can do stuff no other slime can). Which gets overshadowed by the fact that the manga also did a metal gear solid reference by having snek girl miia hide in a cardboard box

..while also dressed as snake. Yes this is a real thing, if you want I can provide proof

I'm not sure if I want to see the proof but sounds somewhat interesting? 

I'll brace for the worst.

On 4/19/2022 at 7:57 AM, rember the state said:

Wait, 10 fumos?!. Is he a fumo collector?

One thing is certain, his live saving are all in fumo Reimu's pocket.

 

Allow me to go of,

Unfunny jokes and Gatekeeping

First of all, people might go a bit overboard with the characters in this case, Meiling and Kaguya. I don't really mind if you make the jokes with your friend or with the people on the internet albeit unfunny and annoying. Things start to go downhill once they shoved the joke down through you throat. There's a certain individual in the Touhou fandom that likes to gatekeep content; ruining the fun and characters. His sole purpose is to annoy people and be a obnoxious troll. I'm not really fond of the  (          )guy. He just want reactions, there seems to be a few species that like this kind of content.   

Fan works that brings out the youkai aspect too much

There's a fan work that brings out the maximum overdrive level; "Koshi Koshi Heart Throbbing Adventure" mainly know as KKHTA. I don't recommended you reading that if you don't want to get your favorite character to be brutally K.O. (It's even more brutal than Mortal Kombat) A selective amount of people try to milk the trend and makes the people from outside of Touhou to be uncomfortable. Heck, there're people on the youtube section, going off with a "joke" to watch this, giving off uncomfortable vibe for the newcomers and for the curious people. Regarding KKHTA, there's also a japanese fan work similar to this. (I don't really remember, thank god) The more tamer version "Osana Reimu" also hated, since the people assume that the story was emotional. Thus, making fan cry. But as we all know, anything popular gets milk to death and overused. So, the people start to hate the fan work. There's another one that's called "SuikaKasen" which I don't know about.

NSFW Dojinshi and Mommy memes and Fumos 

12 hours ago, Isaac said:

The ones that I absolutely can't stand are the people who use insensitive or nsfw content to make bad jokes. Apart from songs or games, I don't type in anything touhou related on YouTube cause I get awful recommendations after of characters with inappropriate thumbnails. These people give the fandom a bad reputation.

Exactly like Isaac said, they bring bad reputation to the fandom. There is a channel called "XE3G weeb" who milk every single trend that comes to the fandom. "TouHouWiafu1" is also one of them but dedicated to "Mommy memes". I can't stand these fellas, they are the bad apples of the community. (Pun intended). 

About the fumos, they are overpriced and sometime come us bootlegs. Not to mention most of them are only exclusive in Japan. It's just dolls with Touhou character on it. The circles once again begin to rotate: those who have the fumo will make fun of those who don't have it and those who make it theirselves spreading wild fire.

Elitists?

I'm not sure about this one but there's seems to be some people affected by it: the trigger word being "EEEH? Easy Mode?, How Lame! Only Kids Play In Easy Mode" a popular one to set flames to the people outside and inside. This catchphrase is from IOSYS "Overdrive".

 

In summary, there're good things and bad things as well in the fandom like Yin & Yang. People tend to focus more on the bad things resulting the fandom to riddled with hate once in a while.  Don't forget that there're people who likes to focus on the good things translating to new fans of Touhou.

4 hours ago, Isaac said:

I love this fan animation too! Seeing the characters and their interactions are always fun and cute.

My favourite touhou M1 Grand Prix is 'Jealousy Star' with Parsee and Yuugi! I love seeing both of them together so much!

I might sound a bit based since I'm a Yuugi enjoyer & a Meiling enthusiast but I've love to see more of them, considering the duo were pretty good. I wondered if they switch the roles to make Parsee the "straight man" and made Yuugi more drunk than usual, the manzai would come out pretty interesting. 

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

· Yakumo Chen (Ran & Chen, both original and reanimated skits) - classic skits; gave us the famous "CHEEEEEEEEEN" (ちぇえええええええん), and I really love the 6th M-1 Grand Prix skit in which Chen is writing the letter in front of the parents and classmates (so much Yukari dissing...)

That one right there is my favorite skit of all time. The classic one give off the nostalgic vibe with "CHEEEEEEEEN", the 6th M-1 comes unexpected, Chen drops bars that even Yukari can't recover the burns. 

 "2nd Touhou M-1 Grand Prix - "Yakumo Chen" Touhou Q&A About Anything" was the funniest one out of all. They answered the Q&A from the manual book. (It was most likely written by Yukari) Memorable lines for me were:

Ran: "you're cute so, I'll forgive you Chen."

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Chen: "Is Lady Mima in Hyogo?"

Ran: "Yes. Bellco has a branch there, right?" "She works at their funeral home."

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Ran: "Yes, that would be me, Ran Yakumo."

Chen: "Ah, you were asked "Who is the strongest beast in Gensokyo?" right?"

Ran: "No, no. "Who has the biggest bust in Gensokyo?"

Chen: "Lady Ran?"

Ran: "No mistake. I've calculated it carefully."

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There're more that I like but I'm about to attend a class. So, there's not much time left. The Questions were ridiculous and the answers are even more bizarre. The non-stop questions part was so intense and the questions begins to repeat resulting an even more diverting situation. The ending sequence is one of the smoothest I've seen in a while.

 

11 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

I will start with talking about my country, Romania:

We are a small-medium nation just at the border of the Balkans with Eastern Europe. In general, foreign pop culture used to, and still does, comes with a very long delay, sometimes of even 5-10 years. When we were getting cartoons as children, many of them were already at their god knows how much-th rerun in th US and the West (yes, we grew up with Cartoon Network, Getix and later Disney Channel in the early 2000s), and we were never getting a full series, just a few seasons that were dubbed. Anime broadcasting was not a thing, at least not since the end of 1990s on Romanian television. Even today, many people would not understand if you made a reference from a foreign series, as nowadays it is mostly on us, the teenagers, thanks to the internet, to see what is going on outside.

And for this reason, for a lot of time, I thought Touhou would be a completely niche series, that nobody heard of. Things changed though when I found out apparently there is a Romanian Discord server dedicated to Touhou and its community. The series is still very much underground here, as our pop culture seems to be very much still isolationist (possibly a result of 45 years of communism, followed by 30 years of uncertain democracy), and so people were not too interested in foreign pop culture. 

Anyway, a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one:

My turn, good sir! In my country (Myanmar):  

there aren't many "anime fan" overall. Most of my people taste in content is a bit "thought-provoking" if I have to say so. Foreign culture usually comes in a very long delay in my country like yours. (Bouns points if it's from the west: we haven't had anything from the west for 4 years.) For the cartoons, I grew up with Nickelodeon, Cartoon Networks & Getix and some Disney Cartoon but they are not fully subbed most of time. Thus, 8 year old me didn't understand anything at all. Anime Broad Casting wasn't in my town, until 2010 in Myanmar television. Truly, the people at my town won't know anything, if you reference a cartoon or jokes from a western series.            (I really want them to know Tom & Jerry, Spongbob, all the good stuff.) I might have to wait seven full blue moons to find a friend that can finally get what I'm talking about. 

Like Yin & Yang, if there's good, there's must also be the bad. I'm a bit jealous that there's a dedicated Discord Sever in your country. While most of my people don't even now what discord is and swifts to Facebook like there's a light shining around it.

1 minute ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Huh, you very much remind me of a comment received on Reddit once I started the discussion there too. It was also about Cirno. 

Oh, I presume touhou enjoyers have the same thought process every once in a while. 

About Mamizou, she appears in the canon work 80% of the time but in fanon, it's very rare to see her in the wild. I thought it's somewhat related to fanservice one way or another at least in Zun's view. (Wait doesn't this belong to another discussion) 

10 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Luckily, my best friend is also a Touhou fan. I managed to drag him in get him back into the series (he knew about Touhou a few years prior, but never got too much into it) soon after I got in, and ever since both of us enjoy. We have different tastes, but this has been common ground for us, and it's been quite fun to play some of the games (or at least trying to...)

You sir have a very good friend. I wondered to this day by myself if I could drag my best friend to Touhou before he transferred school and moving on. He was very passionate about Shoot 'em up too. If I can meet him one day, I'd definitely tell him all about Touhou. 

 

1 hour ago, niko uwu said:

i think it would be nice to have a friend with similar interests

 

 

Well, if you consider this active forum as your friends. I'm sure you'll enjoy it here. if not, I'll make it feel like a friday night.

I don't know how to put it in words but I'll try my best to be precise.

There's a lot more fanservice to than just your "typical exposure". I wondered if the purpose of fanservice is that it's supposed to pander to the fans. For example a character that the fans love in this case, "Cirno". She was in Hisoutensoku, Great Fairy War and Hidden Star in Four Seasons and in Perfect memento In Strict Sense albeit she was hardly important in Gensokyo settings. Thus, making her the fanservice character of 9 ball jokes.   

 

On 4/16/2022 at 10:34 PM, Gou the frog said:

Oh Von, I've a got surprise for you but I can't remember the name of the manzai.

 I've got it now! it's "5th Touhou M-1 Grand Prix Extra - Flan's Comedy Training School" That one sits on my favorite playlist. The punchline was so good, even after I revisited it a fourth time.

23 hours ago, Tenkko said:

Oh man I've actually been watching through the full versions recently (absolutely recommend if you can get them).

You mean the 1 hour ones right? Then, I faintly remember watching the 10th or 11th, the one with "Winged Beast Instrument" on Youtube though, I can't seem to find it at the moment.  

8 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Also for more tall and serious Shiki Eiki

Artist: Evil demon (Pixiv)
Source: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/73598994

Good Lord, she look overwhelming in a good way.

I really like this version of her. 

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

Anyway, what are some of your favorite skits, and what did you like most about them?

Oh Von, I've a got surprise for you but I can't remember the name of the manzai.

It was with Crino, and Flan. Flan pulls out a radio. On the radio a man was saying "Look at me Bastard", "Punk", "I'm going to beat you" something along the lines of that. And Cirno imitates the "Bastard" & "Punk" part in japanese. Due to her voice being soft, she was saying faint "BaakaaYaadoooorr" "KooonooYaaadooorrr" . Her sounding like a chicken got me cracking. But the cherry on top was the whole time sakuya reminds them that "There're guests donwstairs so, don't make too much noise", but flan was "yeah, they will go away" and turns to Cirno saying we got a manzai to do. The thing that got me is that the guests misunderstood the whole thing in downstair as the radio was so loud. They thought someone was saying "bastard" and "punk" to them.

That whole thing was genius no matter how you look at it. Thus, It became my top 3 favorite manzai.  

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

I really love that animation. I think it was one of the first pieces of Touhou fan-made animations, and ever since I had quite a great time watching the skits available on YouTube. From those I have watched yet, there are some that caught my attention:

I'm back.

Totally agree with you Von. This filled me with smiles & laughter for a very long time. I see our tastes aren't much not different at all!

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

· Iku and Tenshi's skit from 16th M-1 Grand Prix - probably my favorite skit of the entire 16th edition. Iku's rage moment was both funny, with her getting fed up with Tenshi's BS, but also felt a little threatening. Which I liked a lot.

The first time I watched that, I was wondering when will Iku lose her cool and Tenshi being Tenshi annoys the heck out of her. Tenshi reaction after receiving the punch was priceless.

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

· Spin Kappa (Nitori & Hina, 5th and 6th M-1 Grand Prix) - I like the interactions between Nitori and Hina, and to be honest, I really cannot imagine Nitori with any other voice but the one from the skits

The gags are so good here. I love the moment where Hina & Nitori changed roles in the shop skit. Nitori was teaching Hina the tactics of a well rounded business man woman: taking advantage of a un-aware costumers. When Hina tried the tactics against her she got a classic "Boot ball to head" making her spin. The execution was so good that I fell out of my chair spinning myslef to the ground.

Off topic: "Boot to the Head" MMD versions make me like Yuuka smiling so hard.

On 3/10/2022 at 8:22 PM, CountVonNumenor said:

anything involving Binary Drop (Eiki & Komachi, 6th and 11th M-1 Grand Prix) - quite interesting to see Komachi in the "straight man" role; also the whole skit with Eiki wishing to get a tattoo had me laugh all the way through

Yes, that was so spectacular that it's one of my favorites. The whole point of Eiki wanting to get a tattoo was so interesting so, I kept watching & she got a 7 eleven tattoo. That's when my mother heard unknown sounds of a high-pitch chicken squawks. Eiki at one point got the most style points out of the 11th manzai. She looks so cool with the golden dress, as for the following moments with Komachi being a straight "man" it blew me out of the water, I was putting my bets on the Yama herself. Then my father heard a mysterious noises of a old man faint laughs. 

I've to refresh my memory so, I'll go visit the Manzais again. Until then, stay put and tune in for more in the following day.

Ah..... some free time 

47 minutes ago, Darksymphony777 said:

https://www.touhou-project.com/sdm/res/54956.html

 

Here it is

Oh, oh god, damm, after reading a bit of it. I'm filled with tears.

Tears of happiness.

19 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

I actually wrote an entire thread dedicated to the Touhou M1 Grand Prix, and talking a bit about some of my favorite skits. It...didn't really get any traction. However, you got the team names correctly. 

 

https://moriyashrine.org/forums/topic/972-what-are-your-favorite-touhou-m-1-grand-prix-skits/

I'll look into it after finishing my math lectures. (25 left)

11 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Anyway, besides the NSFW kind of fanservice, what other kinds of fanservice have you encountered in Touhou materials, be them official or fan-made? Unless there is something we have forgotten to mention on the issue that has been discussed until now, of course. 

ASMR? I believe I've heard of it oh, yes! Arni Village. They've tons of quality work there. I'd recommended you to give it a try.

Oh wait! does stand up comedy like (manzai) count? If so, Official R-NOTE might be the answer I'm looking for. (This could very well be a forum of its own) Often, they have japanese oriented jokes but the gags were so funny that I fell out of the chair. One of my favourite is

My head's completely empty like an infamous ice fairy for now. 

 

30 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Well you said fan service and the story that starts with meiling finally foiling Marisa from getting into the SDM and has to deal with all sorts of shenanigans is bound to be filled with harmless fan service.

Very enticing topic to look forward to.

16 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

If I am to be honest too, I think the two of us are on the same wavelength. I am not so much into the idea of "naughty" doujins, but illustrations by themselves are fine. Plus, I am looking for 3 conditions:

Your conditions & mine are very much the same. Truly we're on the same wavelength. 

(I'd admit that I'll go into to the non-safe doujins but not with the excuse of the "I read it because of the story" or "cause I'm bored lol".) With that out of the way No.3.

16 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

3) don't have them getting pegged; besides the fact it seems wrong, there's one more creepy thing about it. One thing I have noticed very often is that men in such images are drawn as faceless. The famous "Mister" is also faceless for example. Why? One reason I have heard is that you are supposed to self-insert into the image. FUCKING YIKES. So basically, it is made so that ertsin fans can fulfil their fantasies, which is again quite messes up in my opinion 

This point I've wondered for a while; why do they always draw the faceless protag? to self-insert myself in, no for the sake of the Lord above, can they just draw normal eyes and move on. ( not the snake face; bald villager either) Just because fans can finally fulfil their "fantasy" which is, then again, quite messed up in my opinion like yours do.

16 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Basically that things added in extension to sleeves, or on the bottom end of a dress/skirt for aesthetic reasons. And an absolute nightmare any time you have to draw them if you want to creare fanart of characters that posses them on their clothes. At least sometimes

I'd feel like I'm accompanying Komachi every time I try to draw Iku in a all sort of poses. (Not mentioning Yukari, Kasen, Meiling & other chinese related accessories.)

4 minutes ago, Isaac said:

I heard that fantasy kaleidoscope was taking a break too. I have a feeling they will be able to get the funds to continue, but we'll see if they adapt the SA arc.

I hope so too. Then we can properly discuss about it creating a lot more interesting picks.

 

6 minutes ago, Isaac said:

Regarding japan and nsfw, it is uncomfortable for me whenever there is a 'minor looking' character being sexualised regardless of the age. I know there are a lot of different opinions for this and its hard to talk about, especially on social media. 

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not going to accept the fact the the 'minor looking' character are 1000 years old, Thus, it's legal.

They still look like minor, often acts like minor so, keep that kind of thing away from me.

I shall be quite honest with you all. Even if I go to the doujinshis for the "naughty" stuff. I have a fair bit of decency to avoid "minors art." Granted, I still have to meet the Yama for that kind of stuff.

I'm tired so, I'll be hitting the bed. Gents and ladies have a fair good night.

5 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Sometimes, I feel like Japan just exists in a totally different realm from the rest of the world.

It does feel like it sometime. 

When I first joined Touhou which was not long ago. I asked myself why are most of the characters with skirt. Sure, the design are cool. My former self did not understand it even now. Maybe that's why there's a running gag in the community that  "Pants" wearing Characters are so iconic.

13 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Sorry for myself getting so heated right now. I basically just used my early experience of research as future political scientist and work with official regulations in order to make analysis. I really wonder what you have to add on this matter. 

No worries, I also get myself heated by thinking about those things and properly explaining it to my sister. The analysis was pretty decent.

11 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

To be honest, I was very confused about the matter whether Meiling wears pants or not for a while, since in some of the official art (like the Hisoutesoku sprite) she does, whereas in other official art (like your second illustration), she doesn't. 

For me, I think she doesn't wear pants most of the time. For the other half, I believe she just wears it when she feels like it. She may wear pants on her duty. My own head cannon is 60% no pants & 40% pants for the time being. 

 

37 minutes ago, buskerdog said:

I'm surprised no-one's talked about Byakuren's idle animation in fighting games yet...

Oh, that biker suit! That actually speaks for itself I can't believe I miss that. As VonNumenor said it makes it even more fanservice-y in Lost Word and in official material itself. 

 

2 minutes ago, buskerdog said:

 My personal headcannon is that they're French.

Mine too. 

5 minutes ago, buskerdog said:

Rinnosuke... I feel like he's someone who thinks he can understand English but can't.

Totally, he want to flex to Marisa.

6 minutes ago, buskerdog said:

Kosuzu can absolutely read English since her ability is to decipher any text

That slip past through my mind. Thank you for pointing that out.