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yooo NN have show their true potential in Hecatia with her release in global only 2 days after jp. we are offically faster than jp

2 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Last and not least, I have asked a question in regards to how has this game managed to survive for so long. To be fair, I am not very sure myself. Especially given the relatively low production level and budged compared to the other Touhou games that dies out. It seems though that this one, despite feeling lackluster, actually managed to gain enough money in order to survive not only 2 years, but also expand to global level, while both Cannonball and DanKagu died in their JP phase (despite being games highly regarded by the player base, especially in the case of DanKagu, which really seemed to have had a lot of love put into it by creators). Anyway, an interesting thing I have found thanks to Discord is a (unofficial) chart about the financial gains of the game since the beginning of the year.

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-GeOwwWrqTREmwB-wEmcnVB01uOA1nOWh9c4sVpBP2M/edit#gid=0 

I could say that by using cheap jpg and putting most of fan work like story cards and music ost can save alot of money from the live 2d and actual dedication in VA for the characters, too much money put in and low profits will just left the game died, and too little money put in and release character to keep the income stable will be able to lead the game to long term survival. Also Marisa icon, that is the main reasons.
Also do any of you have problem with s1 and s3 of Yukari sometimes just unlock 1 bind of 1 character, not entire party?

5 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Wow,  now I really wanna see that one 

just search in the new post in facebook group and you could see him on top page now, I think we could write a full documentary on him being cringy and angry as much

2 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Honestly, now I really wanna go in a corner and cry again. Why? I have watched again images from Cannonball and DanKagu. Just look at these beautiful animations, which, even if they are just Live2D models, they are so much more cute and lively than the PowerPoint presentation that is LostWord

Picked two Yuyuko examples just because I got them by chance one next to the other (and because she is adorable in both). Top one is from Cannonball, bottom from DanKagu (I did not know that game had a story mode)

 

yeah cannonball is really a good game but with poor marketing and low income to pay for the live2d and VA so yeah dead is inevitable :(, And now Touhou DK is following the same route as well it is a shame. 
Also that maniac who like akuuu alot is back now and he going even more wild than before

2 hours ago, sodaodaoda said:

Huh? I get SCs when I clear a stage tho? Is this JP?

first clear, yes but they have been nerfing it to only 1 sc and no more do repeat stage to get free SCs so they don't let us do 10 pulls right away but somehow they just decide to brink it back again

after the 0.5 anniversary they decided to no longer give us free crystal after a new stage, and I have not see everyone talking about it until now when in discord, the THLW mods always going white knight if s.o talk dirty on NN ,but now after they " put it in " the game people are surprised? Like, they just put a feature they deleted after those rushing banner and call it new? 

Eosd Reimu but the d is silenced 

8 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Honestly. I still don't know why Global was so desperate to rush its content and try to get up to date with JP (besides money of course). It's not like the original server was 1 year ahead in terms of content or something.  Everyone says that the bad for GLB started in November,  when EoSD Reimu came out followed by 6 back-to-back UFES characters (the Lunar War versions of the protagonists). And from there on,  the almost desperate need of Global in trying to stay up to date with the latest recolored powercreep unit JP released just days before.  Before,  the biggest controversy people saw was when Suika (the first character that ever got the S+ tier)  and Scarlet Marisa came back to back,  or when the Mysterious Sword Master banner was received a a scam due to what units came quickly afterwards.  Which brings me back to the old tier list from June year I presented in previous thread page. 

you know the old tier list still have some stand for the best L1 friend with medicine, tewi, reimu,.... but now looking at jp newest tierlist and you barely see any L1 make it to the middle because they just get overpowered by their reskin edition, what a shame.

14 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Holy shit that's quite an extreme,  isn't it? Well,  I guess such people exist as well.  

He have quite a history of Alice being his first waifu, and then yuuka and now is Akyuu. But his behaviours is still same after all of that, good thing that admin kick him now before he start spamming sauce into everyone

On 8/13/2022 at 5:22 AM, CountVonNumenor said:

Due to the lack of major updates and discussions going on around Lost Word, the news roundup will have difficulties in updating content. Instead, they will focus from now on bringing in a number of interesting threads going around the community. At least until news will be more reach (just give it a week, Chapter 4 might be fuel for something...). So, to put it like this:

 

News and updates

Interlude Final is finally here. I have not played it yet, but I also see there is little talk about it. However, there is one opinion (and the only opinion/review) I have found about what is going on (spoiler for anyone who has not played it yet). 

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Between the music (some of which is near impossible to find these days due to the remixes used in LostWord being a few decades old.) and the Story Card artwork that's either "OH GOD GET IT OFF MY SCREEN!!!" or "... Huh, Neat." I fear Touhou LostWord may only have so long before it ends up being shut down. Especially since the concept could've been done so much better than what the JP devs gave us.

 

The script for LostWord is just so bad... Like someone did a brief Google search on each character and their abilities but failed to actually play the games or read the Print Works and just when for one of those shoddily put together Fandom wikis instead. Sure there are funny moments in the script, but those are far and few in between dialog that makes me want to skip the "cutscene".

 

The recent update for Interlude: Finale is my prime source of hatred at the moment however. It just pisses me off that the MC (who may I remind all of you is suppose to represent US in place of who we actually are and what we actually think in such a situation) would rather be with two complete strangers who she's barely known for a full day, rather than staying with folks she's known for probably a few months. Logic 100 right there. We don't even get to choose our fate, the MC just stands there and assists P2 Reimu rather than doing the logical thing (which is ironic that I say that) and rush over to Reimu, Sanae and Marisa's side for safety or one of the three just grabs the MC and all four book it to somewhere else in Gensokyo. Glad to know the MC is still a cock-sucking dumbass if someone treats her nice.

Seriously, Gensokyo was in high alert for something that didn't exist and was having staged events happen, SO WHERE THE FUCK WAS YUKARI, RAN OR CHEN DURING THE WHOLE ORDEAL!? I get the whole point of Interlude was to have the MC introduced to everyone else we've seen through the various events that have been released, but there could've been a simpler, less rushed way other than having P2 Reimu pop into the L1 Gensokyo and pretending to be L1 Reimu and having the group go on a wild goose chase to figure out something that was staged to catch P2 Reimu and that freaky, unhinged version of Sanae.

Oh, and speaking of Yukari. PCB Yukari isn't actually from PCB, but rather IN due to the color palette matching up with her palette in IN which is only seen when she uses her Last Word in that game. Sure I get they wanted some way to distinguish the two from each other and the artwork in IN is technically from PCB but at a higher resolution with an alternate color palette, but I feel it would've been easier to base the artwork fully off of PCB rather than using an entirely different game as the source.

It seems like not everything is perfect. I might have to personally check and see what is going on.

 

Community discussions and memes

There is just one thread which caught my attention. I was not posted on r/touhou_lostword, but on the general gacha community. Well, if we think Global has it rough, apparently it is worse on JP. Not that it is much better here, even if apparently the admins for Global are doing their best to soften the impact when some JP shenanigan is sent to the rest of the world. Some people even ended up praising the admin team of Global, or how GLB is so much more generous than JP, but I see there are also counter-opinions, with some actually worth reading arguments:

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I played very heavily starting from launch to 1st anniversary. I quit right at the Blue Reimu release. Posts like these make me feel very good about that.

If I can "lift the veil" somewhat- LostWord isn't generous, it's hostile. The core game design locks the Last Word behind MLB, meaning you need 5 of a kind to get its actual utility. What they hand out amounts to partials of a non-functional unit. You need to make the rest of the way, while they parade doll packs in your face.

It's kind of bizarre to hear you praise Global and condemn JP. Global is the one with the gacha release schedule that compressed 2 years of JP content to 1, running at double already arduous speed. JP is the one where they had enough breathing room to form a temporary stable meta right until they pushed out 6 sfes. Global is the one where all investment depreciates in two weeks at most.

The endgame challenge modes are well received, which is bewildering to me. On the entire server, there's ~900 unique clears of the first Moon EX. The devs looked at those numbers and think it's a good thing; I think they've gone insane. The last one I played literally locks all of your buttons, only to have a button unlocking unit show up a few banners later. Challenging? It's more abusive. That's the Global feature that you praise over JP?

I am personally still not feeling much better about the game. My only achievement recently would be getting the Fantasy Rebirth outfit for Akyuu, but now I wonder if that is really a redeeming factor for the game. I am still feeling drained, and as if all the flavor of the game is gone. I am not feeling interested in the news UFES units. I am not feeling interested in the RFES units either. I am (at least) slightly weary about what will Chapter 4 be. There is little new content which really makes me excited. I really need something that would bring me back to enjoying it the way I used to last year. When everything was much simpler and easier to enjoy...

 

The two threads I have referenced though this little comment:

 

The interlude is just seem not make sense in many ways like where is other sage character, why reimu and other are spreads the rumors or how is everyone not questioning about how f1 reimu just appear even though they just meet the L1 version,.... And yes most if not all character are build by fanon lore ( meiling, sakuya, aya, dai, ...) So it feel like a different person with only their names. That thing is mentioned somewhere in the thread but i forgot the source 

For the JP is worse than GLB gacha is idk, JP have like release ufes, Efes with general friend in between so if you want to get all ufes or maybe Mvfes is possible if you skip all general or festival friend. But global is, well, release ufes after efes after mvfes is not giving enough time to save resources so skip is a must if you want to get your fav character ( some defense are like 130 pulls or everyone win campaign is just a way to "comprehensive" the lost time that we can not get the cubes ). Now it just well be like Eos early and well leave with the money from banner 

Quite irony is the rebirth akyuu thing because in the fb THLW global community, there is one maniac who say that he is married to his akyuu and threatened everyone if they just joke about his waifu. 

15 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Not too much happened this week. I might update it after the maintenance on 12th August. Until that, we have the news on said update and what will come with it:

 

I also found this list, which is raising me a few questions (spoiler for JP content - Well, I can't use the spoiler feature on phone, which is weird) 

These seem to be events following up one of the anniversaries (not sure if after the first or second anniversary of the JP server). In this, I was quite curious to see where Global is, and how much we may have messed up the order of event stories. I wrote a separate thread on the subreddit in order to ask for more details. 

 

If I remember correctly, global release in 5 or 6 months late than the jp schedule ( we having the first youmu maid event while jp having a reisen airsoft event rerun - ironyly seem like only Byakuren only follow the rule of safety protetion in airsoft ) but global been mixing event with some event go early and some event go later to " release their banner ". Maybe if global get to second anniversary they will maybe do some event rerun again idk  

4 hours ago, sodaodaoda said:

New TLW update dropped and everything is so buggy LMFAOOOO
What a fucking mess, the audio is fucked up, load times are slow (It took my app like 5 minutes to load the download files prompt), and in the Discord server I've seen soooo many complaints, this one being my favorite (MAJOR VOLUME WARNING):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/612722779980038165/1005024810641924156/video-output-249DB6C6-A0C2-47D0-83C1-D0C991BA386A.mov

Sorry if you have to download that video, idk how to link it better.
I'm still waiting for the game to finish download files that are worth 1GB btw, and then I'll see if my game is as fucked up lmao, can't wait

oh so I'm not the only one with the bug because it was like 2 am in my place and that thing actually keep me awake till I go to work. connecting slow and unable to connect happen like the touhou AR stuff first release. I'm now just wait to reinstall the game again at this point to see if it fix

5 hours ago, Agus Mandala said:

Lost Word player right now gonna enjoy another rewards even anniversary rewards are over lmao

Yeah now reward are pack and pack with a lot of thing to get money from player. Other than that, have you all consider except for the live2d in Rebirth then most of rebirth character just useless outside of buffing point and drop?

Idk if any of you have do the 30 clear of this stage yet but I'm sure that the annouce of winner and reward should be distribute in 3/8 but they delay it ( like usual with everybody win and just silence ) but now is 5/8 and no where the reward is seen so have they just scam us especially now we have a EFes in the corner right now

3 hours ago, Agus Mandala said:

Arcadia still have too many bugs and an inadjustment, Voice Volume too high, BGM volume too low, also their discord community isn't organise well if you ask me. So i don't really hope much in this game, but i will keep play it, asside LW. Also EN server are speedrun real quickly, NextNinja know their Overseas market as well, or it's a bad signal for EOS????

FYI there's one more Touhou Mobile Gacha game that still alive and don't give EOS announcement yet, it's Touhou Dungeon Dive, Roguelike Action STG game. Even their existence in Touhou Community is pretty low, they still manage to alive
 

Touhou yeah dungeon dive, It more of an roguelike game with bullethell dodge and shooting. I remeber when the only track was the Bad Apple and bosses just seem like a Archeio x Touhou with a bad gacha but you can beat the game if you can dodge good enough and the story (I use gg to translate) is just deal with some solaris evil stuff so ehh pretty bland.
THLW could do the move like start getting a lot of money and then say that the income was "not enough to fill the quota" even though working with Good Smile to open global server. So when I see how EoSD Reimu release to global I think this is a red flag that start the EOS server but well here we are with another EFes (and well more character in JP) so yeah it just be like Australia forest fire - too big to even stop now

You know, the last time for a new story card have translate was in the oni maid event. Now only the Ex card and some new gacha card get translated; the new card from event is just " coming soon " like they just forgotten about it. I missed the time where I read the info in the card to get more idea about the world

after how DK just died, LW turn into a cash grabing, and AR is just seem like a bootleg remake. Maybe touhou just can't be a gacha game, just a bullet hell, metroidvania, LN,... but definitely not fit to be a gacha game. That should be a good conclude if there is anything else new