When does Toho gets good??

[laselle]

I am really worse than epstein because i didnt like the games id tried?

not exactly that boss level but somehow at island visitor status

i may add as well, since i was the person came first to responded...

first, as i said earlier i have played 15 kanjuden and EoSD, recently have started mountain of faith, the only one i would recomend is kanjuden touhou 15, at least from what you have somehow described i think it should be good cause in th stages you will definitly gonna need make plans ahead and learn patterns, i somehow how managed to do it with sanae at hard without bombs but took good amount of time practising, but nothing that my wife sanae could not do with her Boombs...

now if in few days you just come here and said beat the game in lunatic and was boring, the heck man what you doing here you should be playing with god

Thanks for atleast try and help

bro from the stuff here is just trying to be polite since hes more educated than most of us and likely included you, and is making an effort to make an idea and respond to your post,

next time you come to a place to shit out of something you blindlenly seems to have appreciated or even try to complete them 100%, think of the post you will do, make it more comprehensible and synthethized in some few lines like "tried these games and didnt like them because of... and need some new ones to try...", and not what you posted man just with the intention of making the bitch out of it...

 

[elarstarino]

next time you come to a place to shit out of something you blindlenly seems to have appreciated or even try to complete them 100%, think of the post you will do, make it more comprehensible and synthethized in some few lines like "tried these games and didnt like them because of... and need some new ones to try...", and not what you posted man just with the intention of making the bitch out of it...

well i might try do that the next time i guess, im just very yapping and rambling type of guy, and it was also my first post hehehe. Not ironically im kind of "emotional" and just go ramble stupid things because im kind of passionate about them.


But also for you guys, no im not a god player, its just that these game dont hit hard enough and i dont find them that enjoyable even on Lunatic. I say its fault of Le01 1.01a since that game on max difficulty has me on my nails and toes all the time, i can barely reach stage 4 there and im always thinking about tis bs patter. I might like stage 4 because its basically a rest and for my skill level, i really need a rest after those 3 first stages. And its also only on the 1.01a version, 1.20a is just easy as hell even on Unreal, easier than Lunatic LLS i might say.

Atleast now i know that i have to phrase my shit better lmao.

bro from the stuff here is just trying to be polite since hes more educated than most of us and likely included you, and is making an effort to make an idea and respond to your post,

Nah theyre chill like that, its just a bitchy shmup player complain,and even they "agreed" with me saying toho is more about capturing attacks than stage type of game. I might try their recommendations later today. Idk my only big complain with UFO is that i dont like stage 1 even if the rest of the game looks good, i tried stage 2 and its good id say and stage 3 looks dope.

 

[StarryusRage]

Nah theyre chill like that, its just a bitchy shmup player complain,and even they "agreed" with me saying toho is more about capturing attacks than stage type of game. I might try their recommendations later today.

A "bitchy shmup player complain"? I'm sorry, but personally, you shouldn't even be here at all if you're going to think it like that. Sure, yes, I get it, its more about capturing spellcards than the stages, but.. you know what? Maybe Touhou just isn't for you as a whole. Sorry if I sound rough, but it might be true.

 

[Ultra Instinct Kogasa]

 

[SateriCat17]

Not too interested in this forum, but I'll just say that I don't find the Touhou games "boring" at all. Of course, I'm still very crappy at them even on easy. lol
Though for me, I like the Touhou games and their mechanics because it genuinely feels like magical fights between the different characters and it's unique and fun to me personally (though me messing up a lot can be pretty frustrating). I'm not someone who's ever played any bullet hell games besides Touhou (unless I played something in the past which I don't remember, and unless you count some minor indie danmaku games I've played since getting into Touhou), so I still find more enjoyment out of the Touhou games because of it being a unique genre to me.

But anyways, I've been "emotional" myself plenty of times before so I can somewhat sympathize with you in regards to you not feeling like anyone is really helping you, though regardless, as YuyuFumo said, if you put too much of your "emotionality" into your post, people will only make fun of you and anger you further. Experience with things like that are why I'm now much more careful in what I say as a result of trauma from such things. I would advise you to think more about how what you're saying may be perceived by others.

 

[fazun]

Not too interested in this forum, but I'll just say that I don't find the Touhou games "boring" at all. Of course, I'm still very crappy at them even on easy. lol
Though for me, I like the Touhou games and their mechanics because it genuinely feels like magical fights between the different characters and it's unique and fun to me personally (though me messing up a lot can be pretty frustrating). I'm not someone who's ever played any bullet hell games besides Touhou (unless I played something in the past which I don't remember, and unless you count some minor indie danmaku games I've played since getting into Touhou), so I still find more enjoyment out of the Touhou games because of it being a unique genre to me.

But anyways, I've been "emotional" myself plenty of times before so I can somewhat sympathize with you in regards to you not feeling like anyone is really helping you, though regardless, as YuyuFumo said, if you put too much of your "emotionality" into your post, people will only make fun of you and anger you further. Experience with things like that are why I'm now much more careful in what I say as a result of trauma from such things. I would advise you to think more about how what you're saying may be perceived by others.

I think some people don't really care what they post. The web is a virtual place, after all. If one acts too emotional and out of place, it's either a child that takes internet too seriously or a kind of troll enjoying the absurdity of conversation with absolutely random people

 

[elarstarino]

that I don't find the Touhou games "boring" at all. Of course, I'm still very crappy at them even on easy.

Id noticed a pattern here that the people replying, or play on easy or just not play at all... im surely a noticer i guess, all of this while i beat my ass at Lunatic and die at stage 3 since thats were the game begins because stage 1 and 2 are filler.

it genuinely feels like magical fights between the different characters and it's unique and fun to me personally

I might be just a bitter bitch ass dumb 67iq midwit... but i just see them as shmups, games to master, games that need to be extreme but they just dont hit hard enough. The drug metaphor works well i guess, where you just start with like not so hard drugs to eventuallly rise the drugs into higher doses or just getting one that hit harder, you earn the ability to stand higher drugs and now the other ones just not hit; i really think this is my case. And really i always skip dialogue so i bother even less about that stuff xdxdxxdddxd.

I'm not someone who's ever played any bullet hell games besides Touhou

#noticing

But anyways, I've been "emotional" myself plenty of times before so I can somewhat sympathize with you in regards to you not feeling like anyone is really helping you, though regardless

Maybe i had expressed myself wrongly, or if youre correct, let me still add something to my case.

Im just really passiomate about these games, the genre, how is played and its desing, how hard and fun they are and can or could be, one day i wish to make a game myself that just hits all my sweet spots and needs as, not a single game is good enough and thats why i search for THAT game to appear. And i also just really, really like talking and rambling, i can just NOT do walltexts, is just not possible and specially if its from a topic i know and im invested on it. Even on other forums im doing walls of text, tiktok comments and discord. If im the mood i could explain in great detail what i lile about the routing amd stages from EoSD or any game i have just gotten further on it.

To conitnue this, yesterday, i hop om tiktok live to play Len'en, i played Len'en 1 white label (thats what i call 1.00 to 1.01 versions.) A Len'en fnf mod and a Len'en pc98 fangame while having Len'en Book of The Cafe on the bottom of the screen as a idle game. At hour twenty time mark i started playing EvEx again and just started glazing and talking about JynX game and stage desing, i was on Aoji and talking for 20 minutes on pause just about the game stages, black label changes, gameplay density, how its not a good scoring game and bla bla while Kurohebi and Hooka were cooking dishes.

I just really love talking.

I would advise you to think more about how what you're saying may be perceived by others.

I only really think i need to phrase myself better as english is not my first language, i can write decently and i can defend myself speaking but its still not the best. I just got annoying at how i got persive as this MU HURD GAME type of guy, like ive seen a lot of this pattern that if someone says a game its bad and talks about its gameplay and such is 1 or the 2.

1. They suck and theyre annoying.
2. Theyre so good theyre annoying.

Im not good at shmup im literally mid level of skill, my routing is good my execution is still bad. And its annoying that i got called the number two option, specially for again after seen the pattern #noticing.

 

[elarstarino]

A "bitchy shmup player complain"? I'm sorry, but personally, you shouldn't even be here at all if you're going to think it like that. Sure, yes, I get it, its more about capturing spellcards than the stages, but.. you know what? Maybe Touhou just isn't for you as a whole. Sorry if I sound rough, but it might be true.

Youre the best guy ever i might cry, like seriously at least thanks for understanding and being nice.

Yeah, sadly that might be the move, on a tread about what got you into touhou id reply with "mostly the games and music, i dont story nor lore a lot, and games are not that good either". I genuinely think and still think that, i personally find more enojoyment om the PC98 games as i feel them more silly and even a story i can like better, its not as japanese (by japanese i mean just copy and past folklore kekw) but still feels a lot like a japanese guy game. And like Lotus Land Story is not even that bad of a game, you CAN NOT convince me that ZUN has gotten any good on his early 10 years of game dev after the 98' lol. I also find enjoyment on his early music, and wierd midi's i can find.

I got into touhou again after i drop it on 2021 with Len'en on 2023, im first a Len'en then second a Touhou guys, is just that touhou has a lot more to offer compared to Len'en if we talk about obscure stuff, lol.

I might go play more CAVE i guess, idk, someone please normiefy me, i want to enoy things, hating everything is not cool as you like... not like anything so there is no joy in your life. Its wierd.

 

[fazun]

Id noticed a pattern here that the people replying, or play on easy or just not play at all... im surely a noticer i guess, all of this while i beat my ass at Lunatic and die at stage 3 since thats were the game begins because stage 1 and 2 are filler.


I might be just a bitter bitch ass dumb 67iq midwit... but i just see them as shmups, games to master, games that need to be extreme but they just dont hit hard enough. The drug metaphor works well i guess, where you just start with like not so hard drugs to eventuallly rise the drugs into higher doses or just getting one that hit harder, you earn the ability to stand higher drugs and now the other ones just not hit; i really think this is my case. And really i always skip dialogue so i bother even less about that stuff xdxdxxdddxd.


#noticing



Maybe i had expressed myself wrongly, or if youre correct, let me still add something to my case.

Im just really passiomate about these games, the genre, how is played and its desing, how hard and fun they are and can or could be, one day i wish to make a game myself that just hits all my sweet spots and needs as, not a single game is good enough and thats why i search for THAT game to appear. And i also just really, really like talking and rambling, i can just NOT do walltexts, is just not possible and specially if its from a topic i know and im invested on it. Even on other forums im doing walls of text, tiktok comments and discord. If im the mood i could explain in great detail what i lile about the routing amd stages from EoSD or any game i have just gotten further on it.

To conitnue this, yesterday, i hop om tiktok live to play Len'en, i played Len'en 1 white label (thats what i call 1.00 to 1.01 versions.) A Len'en fnf mod and a Len'en pc98 fangame while having Len'en Book of The Cafe on the bottom of the screen as a idle game. At hour twenty time mark i started playing EvEx again and just started glazing and talking about JynX game and stage desing, i was on Aoji and talking for 20 minutes on pause just about the game stages, black label changes, gameplay density, how its not a good scoring game and bla bla while Kurohebi and Hooka were cooking dishes.

I just really love talking.

I only really think i need to phrase myself better as english is not my first language, i can write decently and i can defend myself speaking but its still not the best. I just got annoying at how i got persive as this MU HURD GAME type of guy, like ive seen a lot of this pattern that if someone says a game its bad and talks about its gameplay and such is 1 or the 2.

1. They suck and theyre annoying.
2. Theyre so good theyre annoying.

Im not good at shmup im literally mid level of skill, my routing is good my execution is still bad. And its annoying that i got called the number two option, specially for again after seen the pattern #noticing.

Where did you get that "everyone here plays easy or doesn't play at all" info, bunbunmaru news? Just stop talkin pal

 

[SateriCat17]

Id noticed a pattern here that the people replying, or play on easy or just not play at all... im surely a noticer i guess, all of this while i beat my ass at Lunatic and die at stage 3 since thats were the game begins because stage 1 and 2 are filler.


I might be just a bitter bitch ass dumb 67iq midwit... but i just see them as shmups, games to master, games that need to be extreme but they just dont hit hard enough. The drug metaphor works well i guess, where you just start with like not so hard drugs to eventuallly rise the drugs into higher doses or just getting one that hit harder, you earn the ability to stand higher drugs and now the other ones just not hit; i really think this is my case. And really i always skip dialogue so i bother even less about that stuff xdxdxxdddxd.


#noticing



Maybe i had expressed myself wrongly, or if youre correct, let me still add something to my case.

Im just really passiomate about these games, the genre, how is played and its desing, how hard and fun they are and can or could be, one day i wish to make a game myself that just hits all my sweet spots and needs as, not a single game is good enough and thats why i search for THAT game to appear. And i also just really, really like talking and rambling, i can just NOT do walltexts, is just not possible and specially if its from a topic i know and im invested on it. Even on other forums im doing walls of text, tiktok comments and discord. If im the mood i could explain in great detail what i lile about the routing amd stages from EoSD or any game i have just gotten further on it.

To conitnue this, yesterday, i hop om tiktok live to play Len'en, i played Len'en 1 white label (thats what i call 1.00 to 1.01 versions.) A Len'en fnf mod and a Len'en pc98 fangame while having Len'en Book of The Cafe on the bottom of the screen as a idle game. At hour twenty time mark i started playing EvEx again and just started glazing and talking about JynX game and stage desing, i was on Aoji and talking for 20 minutes on pause just about the game stages, black label changes, gameplay density, how its not a good scoring game and bla bla while Kurohebi and Hooka were cooking dishes.

I just really love talking.

I only really think i need to phrase myself better as english is not my first language, i can write decently and i can defend myself speaking but its still not the best. I just got annoying at how i got persive as this MU HURD GAME type of guy, like ive seen a lot of this pattern that if someone says a game its bad and talks about its gameplay and such is 1 or the 2.

1. They suck and theyre annoying.
2. Theyre so good theyre annoying.

Im not good at shmup im literally mid level of skill, my routing is good my execution is still bad. And its annoying that i got called the number two option, specially for again after seen the pattern #noticing.

I'll at least reply to the first two things you quoted. For one thing, I'm someone who's just bad at certain games. It is extremely finicky to be able to get my mind to work right and for me to be able to play the Touhou or certain other games right is an extremely daunting task for me in of itself. Another game I tend to be terrible at is Super Mario Odessey, even to the point where my (younger) sister has to help me with certain stuff on it. Though one type of game I'm very good at is Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom. Regardless, despite the Touhou games being the type of genre I'm very much not good at, my interest in the games and the series is what motivates me to get better and is also related to the second part of what you said.

I'm someone who oftentimes doesn't see a game, book, movie, tv show, etc. as "just another work". As I've stated before, I'm someone who's big into storytelling, even some which others may consider "bad". Touhou especially is close to my ideas in more "open-ended storytelling". Many seem to consider Touhou's stories already to be "terrible", but I find them interesting. As I've already stated, to me the gameplay itself can feel almost like actual "magical battles" between the different characters. Overall, I'm someone who has more imagination in regards to such things. In conclusion, I'm not someone who seeks to enjoy the Touhou games as "just games" but to try to imagine things from the perspective of that world. Though may just be mostly idealism for me. lol

 

[elarstarino]

Where did you get that "everyone here plays easy or doesn't play at all" info, bunbunmaru news? Just stop talkin pal

damn someone is annoyed, why even bother on seen the replies if you only care because you see me as this dumbfuck? xdxdxdxd.

Also didnt lasselle, Yuyu and now Sate 1. Not play much or 2. Play on easy? Like nothing bad on that on its own, but we are talking about lunatic and shmup bullshit, lol xd. Literally the staff replied in a better way by a long shot, id should had asked on a shmup forums because if tohoheads are gonna get annoyed while also not even having the games downloaded... lol. I remember seen a better discussion about this topic on the shmup forum and it was like 10 times better overall.


idunno at least Sati was cool theyre cool and so hehe.

 

[fazun]

damn someone is annoyed, why even bother on seen the replies if you only care because you see me as this dumbfuck? xdxdxdxd.

Because I kinda wish to read this forum's threads and reply there, y'know, free will

tohoheads are gonna get annoyed while also not even having the games downloaded

That's standard touhou fan behaviour, what did you expect? And also most of the people are annoyed because you act like a 12 years old that has ADHD and cannot bear Nazrin fight fight because of that

 

[elarstarino]

And also most of the people are annoyed because you act like a 12 years old that has ADHD and cannot bear Nazrin fight fight because of that

toho negros when someone has the slightest of criticism and doesnt find their saga the holy grail of gaming after playing the games while also not even having the games that are being critizise for (this is why CAVE is better):

 

[SateriCat17]

damn someone is annoyed, why even bother on seen the replies if you only care because you see me as this dumbfuck? xdxdxdxd.

Also didnt lasselle, Yuyu and now Sate 1. Not play much or 2. Play on easy? Like nothing bad on that on its own, but we are talking about lunatic and shmup bullshit, lol xd. Literally the staff replied in a better way by a long shot, id should had asked on a shmup forums because if tohoheads are gonna get annoyed while also not even having the games downloaded... lol. I remember seen a better discussion about this topic on the shmup forum and it was like 10 times better overall.


idunno at least Sati was cool theyre cool and so hehe.

I'm generally just a nice person to others both because of me being raised that way, and because I'm someone who's generally very sympathetic towards others as long as they're not completely nasty. You have a pretty rude way of speaking, but as you said, you don't know English very well, and I'd prefer to just, well not be rude back to you. (I'm also not aware of how you normally are in person, so you may be a pretty good person to be around in real life for all I know). Though I've been pretty pissed off for the past few hours because of some tree people cutting down a couple of trees around a couple houses near to our house. Tree cutting people are probably some of the only people I have seething anger towards (at least if they're cutting down forests and trees in a neighborhood which they have no business being in, like what those assholes have been doing). Plus, I hate loud sounds like that. Also, the only time I really ever even use foul language is when I'm angry.
Anyway, I've played the Touhou games plenty of times before, but as I said before, I'm just not always that good at reacting in time. Sometimes my brain can pretty slow, which obviously makes me play worse, while other times I can get by without dying much at all.

 

[fazun]

toho negros when someone has the slightest of criticism and doesnt find their saga the holy grail of gaming after playing the games while also not even having the games that are being critizise for (this is why CAVE is better):

Internet ain't for you, easily baitable pal

 

[fazun]

Tree cutting people are probably some of the only people I have seething anger towards

Sorry but I was absolutely sure "tree cutting people" is some kind of American slang and tried to discover its meaning

 

[SateriCat17]

Because I kinda wish to read this forum's threads and reply there, y'know, free will

That's standard touhou fan behaviour, what did you expect? And also most of the people are annoyed because you act like a 12 years old that has ADHD and cannot bear Nazrin fight fight because of that

Well, I have ADHD myself, so that is one reason I'm pretty awful at the games. lol

 

[fazun]

Well, I have ADHD myself, so that is one reason I'm pretty awful at the games. lol

Yeah but I meant the "um first boss is too easy (wow!) and I just cannot bear that". Unironically, I've heard that like 5 times already

 

[SateriCat17]

Sorry but I was absolutely sure "tree cutting people" is some kind of American slang and tried to discover its meaning

By "tree people", I just mean those people who cut tree branches or cut trees themselves down. My entire city has been having big problems with the power companies being all paranoid and lazy and sending out those tree cutters to cut down trees when there were zero problems for decades. Though the people this time I have no idea why they're doing so. The trees looked perfectly healthy, and they were far away from any power lines. One of the guys said they "had a good reason" for doing it, but good reason my ass. Those bastards just care about the money. And each time they cut down trees, my overheating in direct sunlight gets that much worse... And the animals in our neighborhood (which primarily consists of birds and squirrels) have less homes to live in too.

 

[SateriCat17]

Yeah but I meant the "um first boss is too easy (wow!) and I just cannot bear that". Unironically, I've heard that like 5 times already

Easy is normally better for me. Besides, the later bosses do the job of being harder far better already. lol