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The phantom remix tournament.

1. Alternative Rock just like post-rock in most cases goes just ignored by me but since it's tournament, at least vocal is half decent but i prefer one from third song, well i just can't say much about this song and 1 thing i certainly wouldn't say is i like it but that's just me


5/10


3. when i see word rap i can only think about my native language rap songs which i just pretty hate, on other hand it's GET IN THE RING and it's pretty nice i like mixed male and female vocal (just as much as duo female vocals which i can mostly remember from some Yonder Voice songs) it's also type of rock i would usually listen too as well however i'm not that much into Kagerou theme, even though it has some jazzy-like "aura" like someone said before it's still pretty good regardless

8/10


 

Garison DeCrick said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Amamiya Yuki- chose this song, it sounds like their type of style.
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and here i thought it was already obvious lmao (and yeah i love complextro too)

 
13: Time Passes in the Field, Walk Slowly Through the Night
Now here's a study!

This arrangement sounds deceptively simple, as it doesn't draw attention to its more creative aspects. First thing I noticed was the slight dissonance between the notes sung and the music played. There's a fine line between the bad singer and the musical master, but I was fairly certain that this was intentional; it sounded precise and exact, as though in opposition to the "incorrect" accompaniment the chords were following. Sure enough, the reprise after the interlude is harmonized, with the effect of a planned progression successfully executed. The second major decision in the arrangement is the change from the original's 4:4 time to a near-swing 3:4 time. This allows the piece to mosey along at a leisurely pace without losing energy. But it's so subtle that I almost didn't notice. In respect to instrumentation, Jssf referred to this as "rock." Yet while most rock arrangements rely primarily on the electric guitar, this piece distracts from its presence for the most part, favoring the piano and pipe-organ/synthesizer(?). It's finally given more attention in the interlude, but even then it seems detached from the rest of the song.

I strongly suspect this song to be the type which had a lot of thought put in to how its lyrics and music re-enforced each other. Unfortunately, I can't find the lyrics for this one; if anyone knows what they are, I'd be very grateful.

Definitely a unique experience, and I look forward to looking further into this artist's work. 8/10.

14: Little Little Wish
Spacelectro, take two.

This is the kind of hard EDM I can get behind. Firstly because of the melodic presence, but also because of the incorporation of the style to the lyrics. The song depicts a person (specifically Shinmyoumaru or Koishi) who desires something she does not have; the music starts with an anticipatory intro, which seems to build up to an action but unexpectedly drops to calm piano. This drop is remorseful; we are at the end of the story, after she sought out the means to accomplish her desire. The music jumps to full intensity as she admits her failure, the impossibility of fully accomplishing what she wants, and the destructive results of her determination to accomplish it anyway. The rest of the song follows this idea.

In case anyone's curious (epilepsy warning?):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJGGktb7kgA

Granted that most of this is simply my perspective interpretation of the song, but that's kinda assumed anyway. 7/10.

15: LWCO
kagerou sus

I LOVE THIS PIECE! High energy, good instrumentation, excellent vocal performance, and even just a fun, catchy song. I find this rather ironic; I'm not normally a fan of rap, and Lonesome Werewolf is possibly my least favorite track in the entire Touhou series. Then again, my gripes with Touhou 14's first half was mainly presentation and instrumentation, and this arrangement certainly addresses both those issues. Perhaps I'll appreciate the original more in future.

Taken on their own, the lyrics depict a rather gruesome situation, the dark nature of which seems at odds to the excited bounce of the music. For all that, the piece maintains a sense of urgency, belying the subject of the song. I interpret this as the dichotomy between the game's concept and reality. Of course, this is from the perspective of someone familiar with Mafia/Werewolf, and I can't be sure that's what the song is actually referring to. But the association fits perfectly, and my appreciation for what was already a great song on its own is only amplified by that familiarity.

I wonder how long it will take for me to learn how to sing this? 10/10.

Post-readeveryoneesle'sreviews:
@Drunken_Flower 100% with you on fade-outs, and I actually thought this was your submission just from the song alone. Scrapping that idea now; I said it before, but post-tournament guessing is going to be a lot of chaotic fun.
@Garison DeCrick I thought the same thing about that picture! I guess if it ain't broke . . .

 
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On 1/29/2021 at 9:02 AM, Garison DeCrick said:
Ok, so, I’ve put my whole rant in this textbox below. It’s a massive tangent that goes into the image choice that was used, it’s insanity. But anyways, I’m talking about the music now lol.
 



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First, picture choice. Is it just me or do people use this image a lot? I swear whenever I hear a remix of Sukuna’s theme, 1/4th of a time it’s this pic. Like, literally, here’s my collection.

(Also, yes, I call her Sukuna instead of Shinmyoumaru. It’s way faster to type).

This one’s the most popular. By a landslide. Talking millions of views. No remix, just one from the OST. The omnipresent ScarletFlameFlandre.


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AMAZING

 
Ready for the final round?

First up, a vocal rock mix for the Tiny, Tiny, Clever Commander:






 
sorry guys but i'm probably gonna be out of there for a decent while and right now i'm in kind of hurry so i'm just going to leave ratings and short notes with them

i hope no one minds it that way

1. 9/10 i could call it one of my favourite SOUND HOLIC songs easily

2. 5/10 a bit too calm for my tastes even for orchestra

3. 7/10 this is rather kind of orchestral i would listen to, theme and traditional style are also pretty good

 
FLASH STORM

Well, this is moreso a remix of At The End Of Spring, but I did hear some bits of A Tiny Tiny Clever Commander in there as well so I'll let it slide. This is one of those songs where the synergy between the singing and the instrumental works really well. Other than that, this is just some plain good metal, with enough shifts to move the music forward and an epic guitar solo part. 8/10.

Bad Apple (Orchestration)

Oh, I happen to know this one. I'll be honest, for me it's just too difficult to recognise as bad apple, but I know it's trying to fit into classical style and that it's not exactly meant to be the bad apple I recognise; and I also know the composer knows that too as I've read their comments before. Which, overall, makes this incredibly difficult to rate for me. But I guess I'll take it from the top. After the initial intro, it sets a slow, melancholy mood. Then about halfway through there's this kind of turn in the music, where it feels grander and more atmospheric, but still overall melancholy. And then this grandness is amplified toward the end, ending with a nice, calm resolution. I guess I don't normally listen to "sad" music so doesn't immediately click with me, but it definitely feels like it would work well as the soundtrack to something - sort of reminds of the Ori games in that regard. I definitely can't give it less than a 7/10. In the right context it's possible I would give it even more, but I'm going to take it at face value as it is here, so I'm sticking to that 7/10.

Flight of the Bamboo Cutter ~ Lunatic Princess Pretty sure flight IN the bamboo cutter is a typo

I love the mood set by the traditional instruments working with the orchestral instruments in this, it creates this very grand and powerful music that feels like it's depicting some grand or climactic moment, and it has a lot of these different shifts in pace in the song, which just furthers the sense of scope it has. It really creates this sense of awe, but is also quite energetic. Feels like it could fit a cinematic opening just as well as a final battle. 10/10.

Sidenote: I feel these were a good selection of songs to finish off with. How does Jssf decide what order to post the songs in; is it just random generation or does he choose?

 
1: ooh metal
the vocal and the instruments are amazing
id say At the End of Spring is too cheerful for metal stuff, it amazing but at some parts it feels a bit off.
i can't comment anything else.
8/10
im also at the mood for some bang, so yeah...
im a professional. (that was a sarcasm)

2: Flan, stop stealing Elly's theme.
ohmygod, this feels G R A N D 
im feeling [?????] vibes from this.
dunno but aint hear any 2hu in this?? only the opening contain a bit of bad apple. (oh! then i read busker's comment. Im not the only one yay)
i also heard a bit at 3:26, it really slow, im having a hard time recognizing this.
i feel this works as a cinematic movie ost.
7/10
not sure if can be used as game ost, maybe for last boss? well yea it grand... but too slow for last boss theme.
for ending theme? yes slow, but too grand.
wait, this great for ending this tournament.

3: oh a traditional
the intro nicely intriguing
japanese trad is always feel amazing, or just me?
i kinda wish they use more traditional instruments in this, kinda ruined the traditional feeling.
add few shamisen and there you got it.
8/10
 

jssf, you shoulda put the bad apple after the lunatic princess.
and then we have a proper ending.

 
16: Flash Storm
Metal, right? I'm trying to get a better grasp at the difference.

Sound Holic always delivers arrangements of highs: high quality, high intensity, and high energy. This remix is all of those, and deserves the praise for it. However, I'm struggling to find something uniquely memorable about it. To me, it sounds like a metal remix of At the End of Spring. It's a good remix and a great performance, but there's nothing specific to say about it aside from the slight elements of Tiny, Tiny, Clever Commander mixed in, which aren't even that prevalent.

It's still a 7/10, but I'm probably not going to remember this one.
There wasn't anything noteworthy about the lyrics either, btw.

17: Bad Apple
. . . without the exclamation marks.

I've a feeling this one's going to be rather divisive. Stating the obvious, it's really easy to miss the Bad Apple!! motifs completely; the arranger even admitted this was just a few note adjustments away from being an entirely original piece. As such, it's hard to decide how to estimate it.

As one who loves orchestra in its purest form, I love this piece. It's very baroque, which isn't used much anymore, due to the complexities of arrangement. The progression is almost invisible, which is usually the mark of a film score where the music follows predetermined emotional "events." Yet it never stagnates, and neither overstays its welcome despite being five and a half minutes.

The Bad Apple!! references add an intriguing element to the piece. On first listen, they can serve as islands of clarity in what may otherwise be a confusing ocean of unfamiliar music. I fear that, for some listeners, their existence may hamper appreciation for the full piece, since the tendency will be to focus on the familiar melodies. But others will gradually (or perhaps even quickly) appreciate the smooth integration of the motifs into a more emotionally diverse construct.

Regardless, this is certainly a unique experience for Touhou. 8/10.

18: Flight of the Bamboo Cutter ~ Lunatic Princess
"Of," not "in."

This arrangement is almost perfect! The instrumentation is a good blend of full orchestra and traditional folk, which creates a fitting representation of Kaguya in her most elegant strength. I've always preferred Lunatic Princess over Immortal Smoke simply for its complexity, and I find it very satisfying to finally hear a proper orchestral remix of the theme.

My one gripe is two fold, and is concerned with the ending. At 2:20, the drumbeat is delivered with an air of finality, and puts to rest the energy of the piece. At 2:22, the energy is picked up again, building up to the second stage of the arrangement. But there is no second stage; this section builds up to nothing. Granted, it's careful not to promise more than it delivers, but it still feels unnecessary to the rest of the piece. Of course, without this extra the remaining piece would feel too short, since it had very little build up of its own. I personally would have looped it at 2:21/2:22 back to 0:08/0:09, or have used the post-2:22 section for an intro to a second stage of the piece, or something along those lines.

Still, it's by far the best arrangement I've heard of one of my favorite themes. 9/10.

 
Okay, sorry I wasn't right on top it (was kind of out of it), but I'll be getting the numbers up today.  Please wait warmly.

 
All right, here we go.

So, first off, highest rated song was the arrangement of Retribution for the Eternal Night, with an average of 9.5!  It also got three of the seven 10/10 ratings that we had.

It also was a pretty big help in giving Buskerdog the highest average ratings across his picks (8.8)

Get in the Ring, Toyosatomimi's medley, Lunatic Princess, and Time will tell also got 10/10 ratings from somebody.

My picks were  Time will Tell, Crimson Belvedere, and U.N. Owen (undoubtedly for some).

My personal favorites of other picks were:  Rush Garcia's Bad Apple, Lunatic Princess, The Legend of Tohno, and Tomorrow will be Special.

So, you guys were asking how I choose the order?  Sorry to say it's nothing special, I just make sure that I don't ever have a round with more than one entry by a single participant by making a list and staggering the first, second, and third piece of each round.  I don't really choose based on the actual pieces.  Sorry to disappoint.

A bit of sad irony that of picks, the one I like the most was the lowest rated.

I've noticed we've had a lot of things in the 5-7 range, which is kind of sad to see.  I wonder if our expectations have been getting too high?

 
jssf1992 said:
I've noticed we've had a lot of things in the 5-7 range, which is kind of sad to see.  I wonder if our expectations have been getting too high?
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But 5-7 range is still really good? There's a whole 4 spots lower that it's possible to be, you know. I though on average the scores were rather high for this tournament. Also, I have a text file reminding me what my standards should be for each score, to keep my scoring as consistent as possible.

Drunken_Flower said:
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Yep pretty much lol, Ken probably wants to guess too.

 
The average of the whole tournament was 7.25.

Hmm, I don't know.  If a 5/10 is the even point of good/bad quality (equal parts good and bad) then that's a really bad place to be.

For me:

10 = As near to perfect as possible

9 = Classic/one of the best, worth remembering for years and returning to, something to prove the merits of a genre.

8 = Very good, a stand out in it's genre.

7 = Enjoyable, worth a few listens/viewings/sessions.

6 = Niche appeal, perhaps not for everyone, but the appeal is understandable even if not universal, or a flawed piece that had great potential.

5 = Equally flawed and worthwhile.  Some potential, but mixed with issues.

4/3/2 = The balance is skewed further toward the flaws the lower you go.

1 = Actively bad and/or harmful.  Hypothetically a piece that somehow detracts from it's audience while giving nothing in return.
Personally, I don't think anything here was below a six, and most were in the seven to nine range.  Which is what I would expect of Touhou.

 
Hmmm. For me, I base it more on "how enjoyable was this overall" rather than weighing good and bad parts. So for me, a 5/10 means "average enjoyment". That still means I liked it. It just doesn't mean I liked it significantly more than the average of what I've heard across Touhou remixes. The way I see it, there's so much quality stuff in the Touhou community that if I rated similarly to what you posted, I'd hardly ever drop below the halfway point of my scale - and then what's the point of having a 10-point scale? Basically, I think in terms of "how good is this" rather than "is this good".

But that's just my two cents. And if my line of thinking brings my scores lower than everyone else's, well, it probably doesn't matter that much because it's balanced out by Garison constantly yeeting 10s everywhere lol.

 
Garison DeCrick said:
[SIZE=18pt]Drunken_Flower[/SIZE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihg01Y-Xa9o

Retribution for the Eternal Night = Jssf called this song a “lovely arrange”. But jssf oftentimes compliments other peoples’ remixes anyways. Another factor is the nose. The art is drawn realistically in contrast to anime-style artwork with no nose. In fact, it’s the most prominent nose of all the pieces. And who has the most prominent nose on the site? Drunken_Flower! The nose in his profile picture is very heavily defined. Plus, if you look at his profile, it’s a realistic city. You know what’s in realistic cities? Realistic humans, with realistic noses! Not only that, but in a later entry, Drunken_Flower said something along the lines of “now that i gave this a 10/10 people are going to think this is my post”. Why would he say this if this hasn’t happened before? It’s because it has! This is the first 10/10 that Drunken gave in the tournament. Plus, in Drunken’s later ratings, he says a 10/10 is a song that he can “listen to forever”. Plus, he knows a lot of the advanced instruments like “erhu”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvTBhY9J1R0

The Way We Walked Home Together = I mentioned this above, but this post was also before Drunken said “now that i gave this a 10/10 people are going to think this is my post” so this also qualifies under that criteria. Plus, he misses summer, so he can be nostalgic for this piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stAHdV5Xj34

Bad Apple Orchestra = Sorry Drunken, but this is the last one you’re left with. I highly doubt this one’s yours but I couldn’t think of a third one for you XD.
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sadness
all those Among Us play kinda worth it

Garison DeCrick said:
[SIZE=18pt]Drunken_Flower[/SIZE]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihg01Y-Xa9o

Retribution for the Eternal Night = NOT JSSF CONFIRMED. Jssf was just saying lovely here to throw people off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvTBhY9J1R0

The Way We Walked Home Together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SaXILUYf8E

So Bright = A more fitting choice than the Orchestra one for Drunken. Still not 100% confident on it, but a lot better than Bad Apple XD
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less sadness..
my play still standing quite strong
75% 75% 50%, that's 66.6% average
good enough

"The art is drawn realistically"
bruh.. i said before aint rate the music cause the images. that's for whole another realm.
and Jssf got nose, Busker also got a bit of nose, Ken... not even a face smh.
but if you wanna know what i think of it,
from technical view, IT'S GREAT!!!
from my feels... (im scared).
also did you know i draw?

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no, not that suika, aint draw that

so here my submission

SPOILERCEPTION

 


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So Bright
so yeah, i like Funk, Disco, Synthwave (the Waves version, if only Synth then nono).
basically Hatsunetsumiko's, Shibayan, Violet Delta, Mahotoa Tofu (psst, free stuff).
and anything retro, i like. Even Rock'n'Roll (think Elvis), ElectroSwing or just regular Swing, Reggae? yea!! (i feel oldView attachment 948)
also Hip Hop can you believe it? there's so far i only met 2 albums for hip hop and both from Butaotome. or i just like those two album, not the genre... maybe....

so back at this song
and those guitar, man... it hella lit
i fell in love the first time hearing this.
and i see no problem with the voice ? it sound great! whatdoy'allmean with it being scary and stuff?
i confus ????

星霜降る野、夜を邌歩く(Legend of Tohno)
this actually one of my early song that i heard when just joined 2hu community.
that folk and rock combination with powerful voice is amazing!
i shoulda research MN-Logic and it's branch more

also for Ken, about the translation...
im sorry, i only found the scans of it.
and then after hearing it and reading it,
i found out they add lotta metaphors and hella complex lyric arrangement,
plus they use uncommon (rare) Kanjis which makes it more FUN... yeah...
so it gonna be a while....

The Way We Walked Home Together
i dont usually listen to Akatsuki, EXCEPT their ballad
for example: Mirage of Memories （キオクノ蜃気楼） and For the Weak and Small　（小さく弱きものたちへ）
those two got a great lyric and meaning in it. not to mention how the arrangement is on another level.
(and one more exception: KUNG-FU Master No.9)
that's all i listen from Akatsuki Records...

to make it easy for y'all, i usually pick music for casual listening
wherever you go whatever you do it kinda fits, not too intense nor bland
let's retrace what ive submitted in the tournaments so far to get to know what im into



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Tournament #1

Title : Miss Divine
Artist : Milkychan
Genre : Electro Swing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcV6uIUu5_U

Title : HOTTER HOTTER
Circle : Rolling Contact
Genre : Jungle Terror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQxGQcjH9jk

Title : Photoshop CS ⑨
Circle : Miskyworks
Genre : Acoustic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHvDVN0S0U

Tournament #2

Title : アイウタ (Love Song)
Circle :  無音KAGURA
Genre : Japanese Poetic Pop Electro idk anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z84XrX4mbBc

Title : ハクレイ・ザ・ダンマクサーファー (Hakurei Danmaku Surfer)
Cirlce : さくらゆっけ
Genre : Surf Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkprw4ThFzY

Title : KUNG-FU Master No.9
Circle : OH LOOK AKATSUKI RECORDS
Genre : Kung-fu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q59q0Y6osGg

Tournament #3

y'all should've rember

Title : BLOOMING SEASON
Circle : 歌恋人 (Karento)
Genre : Pop Dancehall Vocal Banger with a bit of Funk Disco-ish yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKvxlxWTsPg

Title : Blue Diamond
Circle : Boston Touhou Gakudan
Genre : Jazz, Lounge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esCdONbOpYw

Title : Sky Dust
Circle : イノライ
Genre : Pop Ballad maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnXwEKDJBc
hehe even kappashiro just uploaded this

Tournament #4
this is the 4th Tournament you fool!


ya see the similarities?
also about orchestral, i do like em.
but it feel that's too intense and too formal, ya see?
i need certain mood to listen to them.

and Jssf likes 2 of my submission again!!
im happy









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Remix Tournament 4, AKA everyone realises how arbitrary our ranking system is lol.

Guess it's time to show my picks.

My picks were:

Toyosatomimi's Medley

Retribution for the Eternal Night

Flight of the Bamboo Cutter ~ Lunatic Princess

A bit different from my usual pattern, huh? I normally like to aim for variety between my 3 pieces, but last time Ken pointed out that he was surprised I hadn't submitted any orchestral stuff, and it made me think, although I've posted about orchestral in musical discoveries before, I don't think I've ever submitted one for remix tournament. So I decided to go all orchestral themes this time... well, actually I guess Retribution for the Eternal Night is more traditional than orchestral, but eh, close enough.

 
 1992? You know what there was during that time? Less technology and more pure nature. The clouds is just raw nature. Something you’d see of the National Geographic or Nature Planet. Plus, look at the profile picture of the uploader, it’s a male! Jssf is the only one here who has a picture of a male as their profile pic. So obviously, Jssf would find this piece quite relatable, I think.
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Um, 1992 wasn't that long ago.  I'm 28 not 60.  (Heck, the industrial age was well over a hundred years ago, even in the U.S.).  Not sure why you focused on the picture, and especially the profile picture (Roman is stylish, that's it).  On the other hand, I've said a number of times that my favorite of the mainline games is EoSD, and that orchestral is my favorite musical genre.

Garison DeCrick said:
Everyone except me rated this song low, and it’s not me. But Jssf doesn’t post their reviews, and they talked about later how sad they were that everyone was rating things with lower scores. So Jssf’s own post probably got affected by these ratings as well!
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Eh, I can see why you would think that, though wouldn't that have led you to the lowest rated piece?  (Actually, there were several pieces with lower averages . . . )

Garison DeCrick said:
Time Will Tell is definitely the most surprising! There was a lot of red herrings for this one, like how I used it as the song for one of my mod videos. Or how Buskerdog has it as the profile picture of his second alt channel. Or how Ken Hisuag did the “Haha” reaction to it, I’m guessing now just to add more chaotic madness to the guessing process lol.
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Uh . . . those aren't red herrings.  I'm certainly not being misleading, even if it is somewhat off the beaten path for me.

Garison DeCrick said:
U.N. Choir was also surprising. Maybe he frequents the Musical Discoveries thread? Who knows. I don’t.
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No, I've known this piece for a long time, and to be honest, it's my favorite of my picks this time.

 
I'm alive!

Okay, first thing's first.

jssf1992 said:
I've noticed we've had a lot of things in the 5-7 range, which is kind of sad to see.
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My default rating is seven; anything more is above average, between five and six is okay-but-with-conditions, and anything less is reserved for pieces I didn't enjoy. I want to reserve my tens for things I'm really impressed with, otherwise they lose their impact. That being said, come end of a tournament I tend to look back and regard my ratings as overly cautious, especially in the first round. In my opinion, a good tournament should be in the "5-7 range;" anything lower would be unexpected for this group, and anything higher should reflect an exceptionally good tournament. I personally think RT4 went quite well.

On that note, I'm not sure ratings are always the most decisive factor in determining the success of a tournament either. With the conclusion of RT4, I'm reflecting on which entries are likely to be the most memorable for me. I rated Dawn of Asuka unusually high, but I haven't thought much about it since the second round; alternatively, I've listened to No More, Anymore? quite a bit more than Kung-Fu Master No.9 since RT2 despite not being as receptive to it initially. So with that in mind, these are my top three most personally memorable entries for this tournament:

1: Time Will Tell

2: Little Little Wish

3: Path Through the Bamboo Forest
With all that out of the way, we can finally get to the anticipated stuff. With how late I am on this, I might as well get my guesses out before confirming my picks.

It's best to get the obvious ones out of the way first, so as to narrow down possibilities. Normally I'd start with Amamiya Dana, because he doesn't rate his own submissions. But this time he sneakily rated one of them, thus making things much more interesting. Instead, I'll have to start with Jssf. Usually he's the hardest, since I have no information to go on. Since he revealed his picks in the tally post, however, it makes sense to start there (I feel like I'm cheating, though . . .):

jssf1992
U.N. Owen Was Her? [Choir]
Gensokyo, Where the Flowers of Feelings Bloom
Time Will Tell

I'd like to think I would have figured this out by process of elimination, but I obviously can't know for sure. There were multiple entries that I immediately attributed to someone based on the style or genre, only for that person's review to put that assumption in question. U.N. Owen was Garison's requested choir, while the Eurobeat of Time Will Tell seemed to implicate Busker, but in both cases the suspects' "testimonies" seemed to "clear" them. Something I didn't notice at first was the upload dates on the videos in question; I know the meme is that you're familiar with older works, but it may be a usable strategy in future. Regardless, your submissions definitely held up amongst the rest; I'm not about to do the calculations myself, but Time Will Tell deserved to be among the higher ratings.

Dana Iclucia
World of Fantasy ~ Psystyle Remix
Little Little Wish
For the third pick, I finally get to try out my deduction skills. I assume something with a high intensity beat and a decently high rating. Also it can't be from a round that one of your other picks was in, per Jssf's clarification. Given all this, I'm going to go with Flash Storm.

For the record, I remember Little Little Wish from Musical Discoveries; it was posted directly after Karminations, which was the song that got me into Stack as an artist rather than a song-by-song basis (and is still one of my favorites, btw). I'm actually really glad you submitted it here, though; I was not in a position to appreciate it fully the first time, and it being in a tournament forced me to consider the piece more thoroughly. I probably should have rated it higher than I did . . . Know that I've added it to my personal collection.

Now things get very difficult very quickly.

Garison DeCrick
Concealed Four Seasons ~ Piano
June, Hydrangea, Test of Courage
Reincarnation ~ Symphonic Metal
I have to go with the assumption that you're intentionally encrypting your reviews, because I know for a fact you posted that Reincarnation remix in the Halloween tournament. There are no specific reasons why I'm attributing the other two to you, except that I find it difficult to see either DF or Busker submitting them based on their reviews.

Full disclosure, I think I rated Concealed Four Seasons too high. Listening to it again, I'm more sure now then I was initially that the arranger recorded multiple individual remixes and overlaid them in editing. Other than that, these submission did a good job of mixing things up a bit.

Buskerdog
Path Through The Bamboo Forest
Wouldn't you know, Jssf confirms the one submission I was already confident on. Past this I have absolutely no idea what's yours versus what's DF's. The best I can do is use the review style of this one confirmed submission for comparison.
The Dawn of Asuka, and the Beginning of the Legend (Brass Band Ver.)
Flight of the Bamboo Cutter ~ Lunatic Princess ~ Orchestra

If I'm right, then it would seem you were leaning in on the orchestral representation, and I'm not about to complain about that. I was pretty confident from the first listening of Path Through the Bamboo Forest that it would win, with Time Will Tell being the only contender in my mind (btw, first non-vocal arrangement to win!).

Drunken_Flower
So Bright
The Way Home We Walked On Together
Time Passes in the Field, Walk Slowly Through the Night

Similar to Garison, I'm pretty sure you're covering your tracks very thoroughly. That being said, you usually have wider genre experience than the rest of us, and I'd initially assumed you for both So Bright and Time Passes in the Field on respective first listens. Your reviews keep throwing me off, so this is the best I can do. I really appreciated these picks, though less for the pieces themselves and more for the discovery they promised. I've already been listening to more MN-logic24 (expect that in Musical Discoveries eventually).
I look forward to reading everyone's reveals and seeing how wrong I was about the last three. Speaking of which, here are my reveals:

There was a Piano in Scarlet Devil Mansion?
I've already picked out my submissions for next tournament, and all of them already exist on Youtube; y'all shouldn't have to put up with this next time.
There's not much more for me to say beyond what was in my review. I feel a bit bad for promising Garison a piano submission and then managing to find a style he didn't like. I've got a plan for next time, though . . . Hopefully enough to redeem myself.

Bad Apple
Rush Garcia is one of my favorite orchestral arrangers in the VGM sphere, not just for his style but for his skill. This is an especially imaginative arrangement, taking a theme that's been done almost to death and doing something completely unexpected with it. I anticipated a skeptical reception for it, but it seems most of you liked it. I'll keep that in mind for future tournaments.

LWCO
I found GET IN THE RING shortly after RT3, and it is officially my favorite doujin circle ever. I've become especially fond of their fun rock arrangements. Expect quite a bit of their work to pop up in Musical Discoveries now that I'm finally free to share it.
That took a lot longer than I thought it would, and I'm glad I didn't try to do this yesterday. Now I'll have to come back tomorrow to see what everyone else said. ?

 
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I'm really surprised that worked! DF's reviews of The Way Home and Time Passes in the Field had me heavily doubting them as his picks, despite my initial assumptions. It eventually came down to The Way Home, and between Busker's and DF's respective reviews I went with the most believable option. This was definitely harder than last tournament.

Drunken_Flower said:
to make it easy for y'all, i usually pick music for casual listening
wherever you go whatever you do it kinda fits, not too intense nor bland
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I feel like I already "knew" this, but the clear statement will certainly help in future.

I've given a brief explanation of my submission strategy previously, but for what it's worth: I separate out discoveries that impress me in some unique aspect, or that I'm looking to present here in a special way. Bad Apple from this tournament and Lunatic Princess from RT3 are arrangements that appealed to me for the unusual approaches they took in adapting their source themes, while previous tournament entries Daughter of Touhou Spring and Idola Deus were musical styles I wasn't familiar with at the time. I take this approach because I want to hear what others have to say about them, and as such I'm not usually too worried about ratings as much as I am concerned with the experiences had.

buskerdog said:
Remix Tournament 4, AKA everyone realises how arbitrary our ranking system is lol.
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And that's kind of the point, right? If we took our ratings too seriously, this wouldn't be as fun. They're important to quantify the experiences, but it's the reasoning behind them that make it worth doing. For me, it's a forced exercise in evaluating my approach to music as a whole. I'd heard Little Little Wish before, but I was forced to consider it seriously this time around because of it's presence in the tournament; subsequently, I came to appreciate it much more than I would have otherwise.

With that out of the way, I can get into the fun stuff.

 
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