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Do Touhou and gacha work together? (2022 - Touhou LostWord, Danmaku Kagura - closed/going to be revived, Arcadia Record)

It's a been a week since my latest news roundup, so here's everything new in the game + some discussions going on around it:

News and updates

There is not so much in terms of new things being added to the game, so this section will go rather quickly. First of all, we have the maintenance for this entire month apparently (clearly I can't read anymore, so I should just check the game and see what's new). Get ready for Misumaru, 'cause she is the latest addition to the game, marking the debut of the Unconnected Marketeers cast into Global players' roster. And she is not coming alone, as she is in the same banner with Takane. If you were looking to get the green kappa, now it is your time. Besides, it looks like Byakuren and Kanako are getting their Fantasy Rebirth, and Conflux Stage is back - this time, seemingly with Mysterious Sword Master and Witch of Scarlet Dreams instead of 3 Myon versions. 



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And for ending the day, here is a meme (not my team)

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Before actually finding anything relevant for the news roundup, I will just leave this here:



Not really what the title says, as the conclusion is more balanced.

 
I wanted to share this PV of Arcadia Record, the new touhou gacha arriving for Japan.



I really like the artsyle and it's great that artists from the community are involved too. There are more characters available from the start, which is nice. I might give this a try since everyone looks beautiful, especially Parsee!

 
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Sooo, here's some recent news on DanKagu...



(lmfao)
Honestly, I expected this, shame they never brought it over to the west tho (Why don't they do that immediately?)

 
Isaac said:
I wanted to share this PV of Arcadia Record, the new touhou gacha arriving for Japan.
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I think I heard about before. A lot of people aren't happy about this because the company making it is apparently really scummy.

Not that I play any of these gatchas anyway, just sharing information.

A touhou card game gatcha might win me over though

 
buskerdog said:
I think I heard about before. A lot of people aren't happy about this because the company making it is apparently really scummy.

Not that I play any of these gatchas anyway, just sharing information.
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So this was that upcoming fan game people have accused of stealing fan art? Or was it the supposed fourth, Touhou dungeon game? I am still a little confused on that matter. But yeah, now with the fall of a second game (RIP DanKagu), it might be a good moment to evaluate the state of Touhou mobile games. Do you know why DanKagu is getting terminated? Did it not grab enough money, was the game not popular enough, the authors grew bored of it, or was there something else? It was a bit weird that after quite a while in which I heard no news of this game, it all of a sudden cam me back today only to announce its termination. Some expected this for a while, but I preferred not to believe it until I get to actually see it with my own eyes.

Nobody knows how much will LostWord survive either, given the way that game has evolved in recent months and tried to rush as much content as they could, plus the...controversial decisions of adding two new, higher tiers of units together with special, hard to obtain currencies for them (and one of them even impossible to spark). Maye we should think again if these game creators really care for us, or all they want is just our money and when they will grab enough they will just abandon ship and move to the next project to milk dry. 

I mean seriously, what will happen when this game will fall too? Will that be the only moment I realize I wasted more than a year of my life with this little distraction? And for how long will we be able to enjoy it anyway? If we get something new to replace it, can we guarantee that game will not fall as well in a matter of time, leaving you with a void again? Some are happy DanKagu will be terminated, and that LW is the last stain before getting back to a clean community. I know it si a cool thing to hate on gacha (and quite justifiably so, given the predatory tactics of these games), but after a while hating on it becomes just as annoying as the product you hate in itself. I learnt this lesson the hard way with Star Wars as a whole, and nowadays I am mostly apathetic towards anything going on with that name anymore.

Edit: I have made a bit of research, and found out what was the whole problem with that game licensed by ZUN and which stole fanart. I do not know its name in English (and will not trust Google Translate with that), but here is some more info about the incident:




 
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It's very sad that these game shut down so quickly, I really do wish they got a proper global release.
Yeah, Arcadia Record is made by a scummy company, as far as I've heard, but knowing my Touhou obsessed ass, I'll probably play it (Hell, I hate TLW yet I still play it bcuz, Touhou!!!)

Speaking of mobile games, remember that Cave game that got announced like last year? Well, it's supposed to release this year!



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(In case you don't know who Cave is, it's a Japanese company which makes bullet hells, they're known for DoDonPachi)
I do not know if this game will be a gacha game, but still good to know.

 
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It's a shame Danmaku Kagura will be closing it's servers. The game seemed to be doing really well, but I guess it still didn't reach those expectations. I'm glad they were able to include so many amazing songs and artwork though. The roadmap for the last of the content is great too. I just really wanted to see a global version and the gameplay was more interesting to me compared to other touhou gachas. 

6 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Nobody knows how much will LostWord survive either, given the way that game has evolved in recent months and tried to rush as much content as they could, plus the...controversial decisions of adding two new, higher tiers of units together with special, hard to obtain currencies for them (and one of them even impossible to spark). Maye we should think again if these game creators really care for us, or all they want is just our money and when they will grab enough they will just abandon ship and move to the next project to milk dry. 

I mean seriously, what will happen when this game will fall too? Will that be the only moment I realize I wasted more than a year of my life with this little distraction? And for how long will we be able to enjoy it anyway? If we get something new to replace it, can we guarantee that game will not fall as well in a matter of time, leaving you with a void again? Some are happy DanKagu will be terminated, and that LW is the last stain before getting back to a clean community. I know it is a cool thing to hate on gacha (and quite justifiably so, given the predatory tactics of these games), but after a while hating on it becomes just as annoying as the product you hate in itself. I learnt this lesson the hard way with Star Wars as a whole, and nowadays I am mostly apathetic towards anything going on with that name anymore.

Edit: I have made a bit of research, and found out what was the whole problem with that game licensed by ZUN and which stole fanart. I do not know its name in English (and will not trust Google Translate with that), but here is some more info about the incident:

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I haven't heard about this news, so thanks for sharing too! It would be interesting if this was an actual bullet hell for mobile, but that sounds more painful. To be honest, I just don't want to see a future where touhou is only known for gacha. The best thing the community could do is keep sharing how amazing everything else is.

 
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Isaac said:
It's a shame Danmaku Kagura will be closing it's severs. The game seemed to be doing really well, but I guess it still didn't reach those expectations. I'm glad they were able to include so many amazing songs and artwork though. The roadmap for the last of the content is great too. I just really wanted to see a global version and the gameplay was more interesting to me compared to other touhou gachas. 
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It is interesting, but also sad. The game had a playerbase (at 5 million downloads in just a year), but people were not incentivized enough to spend their money on stuff in-game. And with these games, if they do not make money, they get the axe. From what I could check, LW gained about 200K dollars last month. Last time I heard this number, it was back in October, when they were greatly dissatisfied and pushed for less f2p elements. 

Isaac said:
I've mentioned this before, but I might be done as soon as I have the last of my favourites. Even if I don't like gacha games that much, I agree that the constant hate will bring the community down with negativity.
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I was thinking similarly. However, that means I will have to wait an eternity for Raiko and Chimata to be added to the pool (so both of us are really waiting for someone that was supposed to come long ago). Perhaps once I know I have them, I could take a break and evaluate my overall feeling with the game. New content seems to be balanced around new powercreep units anyway, so I wonder how useful our awaited favorites will be. Also on the issue of hate, Lost Word, just like Memories of Phantasm, is used as punching bag when it comes to fanon frustration and everything wrong with fan creations. Or at least that is what someone told me. 

Isaac said:
Thank for sharing that tweet and to you guys for letting me know about the team behind Arcadia Record. Even if I did check out that game, I don't want to keep supporting them if they continue to be involved with shady stuff.
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Now I am confused again. Was it indeed Arcadia who did the shady stuff, or it was Cave? I need a bit of clarification on that. 

 
CountVonNumenor said:
Now I am confused again. Was it indeed Arcadia who did the shady stuff, or it was Cave? I need a bit of clarification on that. 
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It's Arcadia that's bad, Cave, as far as I know IS good (like I said, they made some pretty damn good bullet hells!).

Isaac said:
I haven't heard about this news, so thanks for sharing too! It would be interesting if this was an actual bullet hell for mobile, but that sounds more painful. To be honest, I just don't want to see a future where touhou is only known for gacha. The best thing the community could do is keep sharing how amazing everything else is.
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I do think it's going to be a bullet hell.
https://kotaku.com/shootem-up-developer-cave-announces-a-totally-new-shoot-1847279777
Here's a Kotaku link from last year.
Also, there are like 5 Touhou shumps on the Play store, and they're pretty damn nice! 2 of them, in fact, were my first exposure to Touhou's gameplay.
If you want to check them out, here's a list (you can just search for Touhou to find them.):
- The first one that I ever played was one app that had a (9) as an icon, I think it's called Baka STG or something like that. It has 7 bosses, 3 difficulties, but only 1 playable chara.

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- The second one is by the same dev as the first one, and it has the word 弾幕 (danmaku) with some other kanji as the icon (the background color is black), here, you have 5 bosses, 3 difficulties and 2 playable characters.

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- This one has Satori for the icon, and it's like a genuine Touhou game, it's not a boss rush like other games here. It has 3 characters (iirc?), and and extra stage even! (It also has Cirno flipping the bird huehuehaushduahsauifh)

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- Touhou Thousand Night Anamnesis, this one got released 2 years ago, so it's one of the more recent ones. It's a boss rush shmup featuring bosses from EoSD to HSiFS (PoFV is skipped tho, sorry Count...), and it has more than 5 characters, each with their own abilities and bombs! So it's definitely the best one so far. It also has an extra stage and a Phantasm stage.

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- This one is the most recent one I could find, Touhou Madouroku. It's like a fangame called Spell Card Collection, you choose a spell card and fight the boss.

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I know I went a bit off topic with this, but you should check these games out if you want a good Touhou experience on your phone!

 
Yeah Cave is a pretty esteemed developer of bullet hells. I heard about them working on a Touhou mobile bullet hell back when it was first announced but forgot about it so thanks for the reminder. Hopefully the game comes out on time and is a well received experience, although I doubt I'm going to play myself as I'm not someone who plays mobile games.

 
Welp, i guess Lost Word still active, despire Dankagu that will be shut down 4 months later. I've told you before this game is FGO but Touhou. It hated by own community, but still active because it's not only sell the game, LW sell every aspect of touhou and non touhou, Fumo, internet AD, Action Figure, and many more. LW keep the player play the game by making some weekly dan monthly community event, did i told you One of their discord admin also Terraria Calamity Community Discord Mod?

LW not only rely their revenue on gacha, thats why it's still active

 
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I think it would work well in a like of card game, which could be gacha, but touhou directly to gacha wouldn't work, the card game could work better though, it just feels more suited to touhou, though it's probably  not very original 

 
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Time for the news roundup. I have missed quite a bit last week, so I will have to catch up with the news and post them here. In terms of what has happened and what will happen in the following weeks, I really do not know if I should be angry or just disappointed... For a full breakdown of the upcoming things for JP, I recommend checking this out. Most of the stuff will also come to Global in no more than a month after the JP release, i can bet that https://gamepress.gg/lostword/other/jp-july-26th-dev-stream-recap 

News and updates

Most recent maintenance gave us a few things:
- 5 prayers every day until the 1st of August, I think (5 x 8 days) - I do remember when these free daily prayers campaigns used to give you 10 free prayers, not just 5
- SA Koishi retro unit added
- x2 reward errands (this one is actually neat) for a few days
- Forever Prayer Part 2
- the EoSD Patchouli banner (ironically, I got A6 Reimu, Sakuya and Cirno out of it, and wonder if I should push a bit more for Marisa too)
- we finally got, after a 4 days break, the last stages of the current Princess Joon the Chivalrous Phantom Thief event (I guess they ended up lagging behind with the translations, just like with everything that is not a SFes/EFes/RFes unit, because there they will just speedrun it to the speed of light into Global)
- RFes Remilia festival ongoing 



 
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One more thing to add, the Arcadia Record game is coming out tomorrow apparently 



Indeed, I have found the game on Google Play as an international release. However, it has not been translated to English, so I guess anyone who wants to play it will have to bear with the original language for a time (unless thus game will get EoS-ed until then - nobody really expects Arcadia Record to survive very long) 

Oh, and this dropped about 40 minutes ago. Why does the art style of the animation look so familiar to me? I feel like I've seen it somewhere else




 
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