Magic team felt miserable to play in th08 (skill issue?)

[NuMetalFan]

So I finished EoSD and PCB with MarisaB, had an absolute blast and not too much of an issue. I naturally tried playing the magic team once I got to IN, but it went so badly, I had to swallow my pride and pick barrier team instead. Is there something wrong (different) with the magic team, or I just need to get good™? And should I expect something similar in the following games?

 

[Bus Passenger]

So I finished EoSD and PCB with MarisaB, had an absolute blast and not too much of an issue. I naturally tried playing the magic team once I got to IN, but it went so badly, I had to swallow my pride and pick barrier team instead. Is there something wrong (different) with the magic team, or I just need to get good™? And should I expect something similar in the following games?

I mean, I would naturally assume that picking Marisa in any Touhou game would makes thing difficult since she will need to reposition a lot if she wants to deal effective damage against enemies or deal with enemies she can't hit on screen depending on her position which is more likely going to get you hit. One thing that makes Magic Team (& Scarlet Devil Team) difficult in Imperishable Night is Stage 4 Boss, Reimu who is much more difficult than Marisa.

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with Magic Team but the game just starts to spike in difficultly when you reach Stage 4.

 

[YuyuFumo]

Forbidden Magic Team is easily the worst team shot in IN, that's why. They don't deal enough damage for how little range they have (especially Alice's dinky laser), Alice's bombs are some of the worst in the series, Marisa's gimmick of always being able to auto collect is worthless since ALL youkai partners can do the same. Reimu/Yukari have better survivability, Sakuya/Remi do better damage, and Youmu/Yuyuko just do everything better since they're the best shot in the game. Marisa saves the experience from being as bad as Alice or Sakuya solo, but it's still not a fun time.

 

[SateriCat17]

Forbidden Magic Team is easily the worst team shot in IN, that's why. They don't deal enough damage for how little range they have (especially Alice's dinky laser), Alice's bombs are some of the worst in the series, Marisa's gimmick of always being able to auto collect is worthless since ALL youkai partners can do the same. Reimu/Yukari have better survivability, Sakuya/Remi do better damage, and Youmu/Yuyuko just do everything better since they're the best shot in the game. Marisa saves the experience from being as bad as Alice or Sakuya solo, but it's still not a fun time.

I can certainly agree that that the Youmu/Yuyuko team are the best in IN (I mean, I got my first major 1cc with them after all).
And also that the Magic Team have pretty bad shots/bombs. It's sad, as IN is the only Touhou danmaku game where Alice is playable.

 

[War]

Forbidden Magic Team is easily the worst team shot in IN, that's why. They don't deal enough damage for how little range they have (especially Alice's dinky laser), Alice's bombs are some of the worst in the series, Marisa's gimmick of always being able to auto collect is worthless since ALL youkai partners can do the same. Reimu/Yukari have better survivability, Sakuya/Remi do better damage, and Youmu/Yuyuko just do everything better since they're the best shot in the game. Marisa saves the experience from being as bad as Alice or Sakuya solo, but it's still not a fun time.

Idk man, I've abused the absurd damage of the malice cannon to great effect.

 

[NuMetalFan]

Forbidden Magic Team is easily the worst team shot in IN, that's why. They don't deal enough damage for how little range they have (especially Alice's dinky laser), Alice's bombs are some of the worst in the series, Marisa's gimmick of always being able to auto collect is worthless since ALL youkai partners can do the same. Reimu/Yukari have better survivability, Sakuya/Remi do better damage, and Youmu/Yuyuko just do everything better since they're the best shot in the game. Marisa saves the experience from being as bad as Alice or Sakuya solo, but it's still not a fun time.

Damn, I had a feeling. But what about Youmu/Yuyuko makes it the best team? At first glance, it's the most clunky one by far. (It does have the funniest dialogue at least)
Also, I was well aware of the exploit but decided not to use it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[SateriCat17]

Damn, I had a feeling. But what about Youmu/Yuyuko makes it the best team? At first glance, it's the most clunky one by far. (It does have the funniest dialogue at least)
Also, I was well aware of the exploit but decided not to use it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For me, I find them easy to use as both Youmu and Yuyuko do a lot of damage, they both seem to have pretty good bombs, and they have the best "adaptability" when switching between them quickly. Of course, otherwise, I'm not real sure why they work so well for me. (Though, their funny dialogue could be one reason, as it motivates me a little. lol)

 

[NuMetalFan]

For me, I find them easy to use as both Youmu and Yuyuko do a lot of damage, they both seem to have pretty good bombs, and they have the best "adaptability" when switching between them quickly. Of course, otherwise, I'm not real sure why they work so well for me. (Though, their funny dialogue could be one reason, as it motivates me a little. lol)

I mean, you'd normally use the human for the stages, and the youkai for bosses, but this team incentives the opposite. Am I missing something? But that's assuming you're trying to maximize the gauge. The gauge was pissing me off though, I was glad to realize it's not required for a 1CC.

 

[SateriCat17]

I mean, you'd normally use the human for the stages, and the youkai for bosses, but this team incentives the opposite. Am I missing something? But that's assuming you're trying to maximize the gauge. The gauge was pissing me off though, I was glad to realize it's not required for a 1CC.

I only pay attention to the gauge when I feel like it. I still don't understand the mechanics behind it much myself. Still, what you said about them being the "opposite" could be one reason I do better with them, but idk.
I think overall, I'd probably do as good, if not even more-so with the Scarlet Team, but fighting Reimu in IN is next to impossible for me, so that is yet another reason I tend to choose Youmu and Yuyuko over the others.
Regardless, Youmu and Yuyuko feel the least "wonky" to me of IN's teams, so that's as well one of the main reasons I tend to choose them.
(I'm pretty tired, so my explanations are terrible right now... -_-)