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Fifth Remix Tournament

Dana Iclucia said:
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Sounds like a job for Discount-HolmesTM!

Let us review the evidence.

First: The comment on this video is the translated lyrics of the song, so whoever posted it had an interest in the meaning of the lyrics. Who among us shows consistent interest in lyrics?

Second: The channel was created recently, which means the playlist must also have been created recently. Who among us has recently mentioned compiling a playlist of the past tournament entries?

Third: As of RT4, three participants had uploaded unlisted videos for their submissions. Two of those videos are in the playlist, while the remainder are replaced by the channel's own uploads. Has someone among us re-uploaded their own submissions?

Clearly, the evidence all points to one person.

You all know where this is going.


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It appears Buskerdog has a third archive channel!



 
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1. Usually folk stuff is hit or miss for me and even if it hits it's not that hard this however lands somewhere between in still it's not calm enough to make me sleep and just not my style to make me go nuts so it's a mediocre and so is a rating

7/10


2. awawawawaaa, i always gladly take Meramipop's vocals monochrome isn't really my favorite but it does it's job well, on other hand pristine beat is mediocre theme at best for me (i just can't catch a glimpse to it) so it's holding it back however because it's Meramipop it lands slightly higher than Folk Bad Apple

7.5/10


3. i'm pretty sure everyone who listened it already know whos submission it is so, i really love this one and it really lands close to my top songs (in general not only related to 2hu) i just love style and sampling in this one and how it's so "calm" along with fairly unusual progression and yet always when i hear it i need to listen it right to the end

10/10

 
Bard Apple

I'm a sucker for bardcore, and a sucker for Bad Apple. You can tell from that what I'm going to rate this.

It does help that this arranger consistently delivers in high quality.

Rating: 10/10


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this was my first submission. It dropped just a few days before the tournament started.


Epic Beats

I liked it. Not exactly my cup of tea, since I prefer melodic instrumentals in general, but it's not bad.

Rating: 7/10
ESQUARIA: Everlasting Nap

I'm usually not into squarewave mixes, but this is okay for listening. Not grating, but isn't all that memorable. Might have rated it higher if I knew the tune; I haven't listened to all the Hifuu Club albums.

Rating: 6.5/10

 
Bad Folk Apple

I'm very happy that these kind of arrangements have gotten more popular in recent years, and this, I think, is actually one of the better examples.  A good selection of instruments and they blend together very well, while remaining quite faithful to the original piece.

8/10
Primordial Rock

Pretty good, the vocals and instruments mix well, and it keeps a good pace without being intense.

7/10
Everlasting Nap

Hmm, this is an odd one.  There are some sections that are the peaceful sound I would expect out of something with that title, but there's also a lot of . . . I guess I would call it broken electronic?  It's unfortunate, really.  The piece is mostly a mess, but there are handful of really good phrases.

5/10

 
GARISON!! YOU!!

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Kaoruko - Bad Apple!! [Medieval Folk Arrangement]

seriously?

the first thing i notice is
there's too much reverb

nice percussions, very fitting for the theme, just what i imagine how it sound in medieval.
the guitar though, is it me or it feel a bit rock-ish?

1:25 what are those droplets, that's too loud
noo you broke the medieval feeling

1:54 is great, the plucks also great.
much energy

although i like this one
i can't see myself picking this one from a playlist

7/10
monochrome-coat - Song of Joy

don't look at the comments

so yeah Classic Rock is great
those beats, those instruments, those melody and the voice
is indeed pristine

Love/10 

the lyrics i catch from listening alone, i feel like it talks about nostalgia and happy memories.
which is the case with it being classic rock

also this one in particular reminds me of Blue Oyster Cult - The Reaper
i still not satisfied with that though, i feel there's a song that resemble this one more than The Reaper, i just can't remember.
ESQUARIA - Everlasting Nap

Esquaria really dominating this tournament eh?

Dubstep eh? that's pretty nice

guess everyone comment is how they keep changing from kalm to intens so suddenly.

2:40 THERE!! TOUHOU!!

7.5/10


also the music man is obviously busker

 
Garison DeCrick said:
It seems as though Crusader Jerome is challenging my 10/10 ratings lol. Well, you all know what I have to do now… XD

Bad Apple!!


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0:00 Nice drum beat. Very rhythmic.

0:15 Okay we’ve got some guitar over here.

0:29 Ayyy nice flute. Now I can see why it’s called Bardcore lol.

1:18 Dang, they’re going ham with the cymbal here.

[SIZE=11pt]Overall, like the medieval take on it. 10/10[/SIZE]


Song of Joy

Song of joy, errr, looks like Raiko has an expression of like anger. Or maybe that’s just how she expresses her joy?

0:10 Surprisingly chill guitar

0:23 Calming vocal. Always cool to see a more relaxing take on Raiko’s theme, since it’s usually so intense with the drums.

[SIZE=11pt]Overall, pretty good. Like the drums on there. 10/10[/SIZE]


Everlasting Nap

0:05 Sounds like there’s a clock in the background here.

0:29 Ok some heavy dubstep.

[SIZE=11pt]Overall, not really a fan of dubstep, so it’s a 10/10[/SIZE]
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This is a joke... right?

Regardless of if you're actually sticking with any of those scores, I'd still like to see your actual in-depth opinions on these.

But of course, you were always planning to make another real review post later on... right?

 
Alright guys, I'm back with the results! Sorry if I took a bit long. I may or may not have failed to notice that everyone had submitted their ratings. I have to say, this has been a really great remix tournament, and I'm happy to have hosted it! Personally, I don't think there was a single song in this tournament I disliked!

Now, since I know some of you like to guess who submitted each of the songs, let me just point out that inside this spoiler tab, one of them has been given away. So if you want to make your guesses first, do that before opening the spoiler tab.

OK, here are the stats!

Firstly, the "winning" song with the highest average rating is Crusader Jerome's pick of Apparitions Stalk the Night (the one from round 6), with an overall score of 8.8/10!

Other stats:

The participant with the highest average score across all of their songs was Jssf1992, with 8.25/10.

And all the songs which received a 10 this tournament (not counting self-ratings, as with all the stats here) are:

  • Apparitions Stalk the Night ('Chillout Metal' one from round 1)
  • White Spirit, Ultra Red
  • The Truant Boss's Time to Charge
  • LOVE in the BLACK
  • The Daffodils
  • The Dream of a Rabbit Singing in the Night
  • Apparitions Stalk the Night (the other one from round 6)
  • Bad Apple Medieval Folk Style(?)
  • Song of Joy(?)
  • Everlasting Nap(?)
Some of my personal favourites were Emotion Bigwave, The Daffodils, and The Dream of a Rabbit Singing in the Night. And although it wasn't part of the tournament, I also loved that Last Occultism remix Dana shared!

...Well, I guess that leaves only one thing to do. Time to reveal what our picks were! Well, if you're making your own guesses then actually the chronology of this doesn't make sense because you haven't yet read the previous section. But anyway, here are my picks:

Alstroemeria Records - Dreaming

Alright so fun trivia time, aside from the famous Bad Apple remix, this is basically the first Touhou remix that started my interest in, well, Touhou remixes - in fact, I found it because I went looking for more songs sung by Nomico, who of course sings Bad Apple. Not the first Touhou remix I heard, and not what got me into the Touhou games (I had already started with the games at that point) but this was basically my first step into the world of doujin. So, I'm obviously fond of it, so I decided to submit it just to see what everyone else thought! 

Akatsuki Records - White Spirit, Ultra Red

A song by the oh so familiar Stack. But when I found it, the first thing that immediately struck me about it is how different it was compared to Stack's usual - it was a side of Stack I hadn't heard before. Plus, it's also just a pleasant and interesting song. So, that's the reason I chose it for this tournament. It really goes to show how versatile she is, doesn't it?

O-Life Japan - The Truant Boss's Time to Charge

The other two songs are both remixes of Reimu themes - at one point I was planning to do an all Reimu submissions, like how Jssf did all Alice themes one time before. So originally I would have put Rebirth by GET IN THE RING as my last pick, but since I ended up sharing that in the musical discoveries thread, I decided to scrap the whole just Reimu themes thing and pick this instead. This one's just so unique! Definitely the sort of interesting song that I like to use for remix tournaments.
I have one last thing to say, and that's thank you to all of you for participating! This was a really great tournament!

 
Yeah it was super fun and it felt good to listen to those beats and i'm glad that songs i picked were also liked by few guys

My picks (if you didn't found out yet) were:

 

(ESQUARIA) Nhato x Taishi (Edelritter) - Humanity

(ESQUARIA) ziki_7 - Emotional Bigwave

(ESQUARIA) MYTK - Everlasting Nap

so yeah actually all of my picks were from ESQUARIA circle this time
i'm already looking forward to next tournament, actually no i'm pretty much ready for next tournament already

however i wouldn't mind if someone would DM me on discord when it happens because i can miss it when it's announced only on site and i 100% won't miss it on discord (my profile should be on my userpage iirc)


 

 
This experience was definitely a treat.

My picks:

Jazz Gensokyo Past and Present

I like Active NEETS. And I like their jazz mixes, though not as much as the orchestral mixes. Kind of a mid-level piece, but their stuff is best when you listen to the whole album/suite at once, not just one track.

Apparitions Stalk the Night

Explained how I feel about this one already.

Bardcore Bad Apple

Bardcore is awesome. And, as I said before, this dropped two/thee days before the tournament started. Wasn't gonna pass this one up.

 
Been putting this off, 'cause I know it's going to take awhile. First off, this has by far been one of the best tournaments we've had so far from the position of submissions, which have spanned across several genres and styles. The music was so good overall, that I've been questioning the dynamic quality of my ratings. I'm not quite decided on adopting the decimal system yet, and ultimately it doesn't matter (per previous post-tournament discussion), but I'm giving it some thought. Participation felt a little more awkward with the extended time between each round, but this was more because I was fighting the expectations of previous tournaments; given time, I'd probably feel more comfortable having the freedom to formulate my posts as my time allows.

Enough stalling; Discount-Holmes has a reputation to uphold!

If anyone noticed me logged on for several hours yesterday, most of that time was spent trying to guess everyone's submissions without reading Busker's notes. Long story short, it became a frustrating endeavor which I judged more trouble than it was worth. It may be possible, but definitely not reasonably so. This is ultimately meant to be for fun, and with nothing to go on for Busker and no familiarity with Jssf's or Jerome's respective commentary styles, I have decided to cheat a little this time and allow myself Busker's submissions as a head start. FTR, I would never have guessed the second and third picks.

Otherwise, Garison was obvious for obvious reasons, and I'm pretty sure about Dana's as well. Jerome revealed two of his submissions during the tournament, both of which held ties to Musical Discoveries; I'm not sure if this was intentional, but it did contribute to my guesses. DF and Jssf's picks were almost completely by process of elimination. DF inconsistently but frequently made first-impression guesses in his cold-opens, and assuming these were authentic (which I have to assume both because it's generally ideal and because it's an essential part of why guessing submissions is possible to begin with) that narrowed down the field a bit. Especially noteworthy was LOVE in the BLACK, which I would have assumed was his pick from the start had he not started his review with "probably Ken"; a similar situation inclined me against Repeating Greenery as his submission.

I could go on for a while more, but I've spent far too long on this already. In order of who I determined fully allocated, here are my guesses:

Garison DeCrick:
Xe - Piano Concerto No 666 ~ Jealousy Fire
shtm1 - The Perpetual Snow of Komakusa
Kuroneko Lounge - Myorenji set 07 ~ Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship

Dana Iclucia:
ESQUARIA - Emotional Bigwave
ESQUARIA - Humanity
ESQUARIA - Everlasting Nap






Buskerdog:
Alstroemeria Records - Dreaming
Akatsuki Records - The Floating Orb Shapes' Line of Faith ~ White Spirit, Ultra Red
O-Life Japan - The Truant Boss's Time to Charge






Crusader Jerome:
Tokyo Active NEETs - Gensokyo, Past and Present ~ Flower Land
PHOENIX Project - Apparitions Stalk the Night
kaoruko - Bad Apple!! [Medieval Folk Arrangement]

Jssf1996:
XL Project - Apparitions Stalk the Night ~MintJam Mix~
ESQUARIA - Repeating Greenery
鶫 -Tsugumi- - LOVE in the BLACK






Drunken_Flower:
TashMusicCircle - paragauas
UNDEAD CORPORATION - The Dream of a Rabbit in the Night
monochrome-coat - Song of Joy

If I'm wrong, I predict it is entirely because Jssf submitted the Active NEETs piece and gave it a low review.
If it was DF, I'm not doing this again.
Last tournament, I noted my three most personally memorable remixes, since these do not necessarily correlate to ratings. That seems especially true this time, considering that my favorite song in the tournament, Yuu's Apparitions Stalk the Night, was one I was already familiar with and listen to regularly.

1: Akatsuki Records - The Floating Orb Shapes' Line of Faith ~ White Spirit, Ultra Red
This is now one of my favorite Stack songs, ranking up with Karminations and WARNINGxWARNINGxWARNING.

2: XL Project - Apparitions Stalk the Night ~MintJam Mix~
Just straight up a great sounding blend of instrumentation.

3: A tie between UNDEAD CORPORATION's The Dream of a Rabbit in the Night and ESQUARIA's Humanity.
The latter is mostly due to the expiermenting I was doing with it. Overall, there were so many great pieces this time around!
Finally, so that it's stated consisely rather than just being implied from the earlier list, these were my submissions for RT5.

1: OTOMEKAN - No more reason
This was little different then what I usually use, but it stood out to me for the reasons outlined in my review. I almost didn't use this one, but I think it worked out alright.

2: a-TTTempo - YOU ARE MINE!
I looked at a few different a-TTTempo arrangements before settling on this one. I'll post some others in Musical Discoveries later.

3: fromadistance - The Daffodils
I'm surprised everyone liked this one so much. Similiarly to the previous entry, I looked at a couple different pieces from fromadistance, and I lliked how this one contrasted so strongly with what we usually have. I can't guarrentee that I'll have stuff like this very frequently, but I'll make a point of keeping these softer styles represented.
So, with all that finally out of the way . . .
May I host the next tournament? :)

 
Ken Hisuag said:
So, with all that finally out of the way . . .
May I host the next tournament? :)
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Hosting this was a lot of fun... but I don't want to be the host next time lol. So if no one else particularly wants to volunteer then I don't see why not.

Ken Hisuag said:
DF inconsistently but frequently made first-impression guesses in his cold-opens, and assuming these were authentic (which I have to assume both because it's generally ideal and because it's an essential part of why guessing submissions is possible to begin with) that narrowed down the field a bit.
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By the way, DF is a volatile being who embraces chaos
I may or may not have used this  :YoumuStare:  on one of his posts for a reason

 
I certainly won't stop anyone else from hosting.  It's nice to get to be a normal participant.

Mine were

The "chill-out/metal" Apparitions Stalk the Night.

The "Vocal/Metal/Folk" Lunatic Eyes ~ Invisible Full Moon

The "Flamenco" Umbrella that was left there Forever

To note, I noticed a lot of comments about some people thinking that the second pick would have been better as just instruments rather than with the vocals.  Thing is, I originally stumbled on the piece a number of years ago as just that, only the instruments.  However, when I was looking for it, I could only find the vocal version.  I'm guessing the channel that had it was taken down.

 
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By the way, DF is a volatile being who embraces chaos
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That is . . . unfortunate. So the two I initially thought were DF's but for the misdirection were actually his.

Oh well. I still managed to have fun with it.

jssf1992 said:
I could only find the vocal version.
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The irony is that the link to the off-vocal is in the comment section of the video you found. But FTR, I heavily preferred the vocal over the instrumental.

 
if you cant find the lyrics, that's mine.

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aw come on, the everlasting greenery is just one layer misdirection.
although personally i'd say that one is well made.
hiding behind circle and genre that i avoid and throwing accusation on other people, feels great.
not only that but if you check my fragrant playlist i also spice things up by putting it last in the queue, giving it the impression that it added recently.
considering how i rank it, that also count as misdirection.
ok then, maybe not one layer.
make it 4 layer maybe idk how to count.
im proud of that one.

Ken Hisuag said:
Especially noteworthy was LOVE in the BLACK, which I would have assumed was his pick from the start had he not started his review with "probably Ken"
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Tsugumi Love in the BLACK, i was too frustrated to make a proper one, but somehow it works.
almost there, ken
 

Song of Joy, i commented in that video, i have no escape
also no one checked my Primordial playlist in music discovery?
anyone?

also i said to busker that i won't hide, but here i am.
maybe imma do the guessing next tourney

imma pass the hosting, i can't fool anyone if i cant comment
although i also having hard time to comment....
wait, i also cant guess if i host

also garison been missing?
he usually the first one to comment.
exam season?
nay he's old.

 
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Ken Hisuag said:
Jerome revealed two of his submissions during the tournament, both of which held ties to Musical Discoveries; I'm not sure if this was intentional, but it did contribute to my guesses.
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Fun fact, I've only popped into that thread once or twice, never staying very long. This is actually the longest I've spent posting consistently in a single thread.

 
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