Fanservice in Touhou, at least as much as I have seen yet

[Gou the frog]

To be honest, I was very confused about the matter whether Meiling wears pants or not for a while, since in some of the official art (like the Hisoutesoku sprite) she does, whereas in other official art (like your second illustration), she doesn't. 

For me, I think she doesn't wear pants most of the time. For the other half, I believe she just wears it when she feels like it. She may wear pants on her duty. My own head cannon is 60% no pants & 40% pants for the time being. 

I'm surprised no-one's talked about Byakuren's idle animation in fighting games yet...

Oh, that biker suit! That actually speaks for itself I can't believe I miss that. As VonNumenor said it makes it even more fanservice-y in Lost Word and in official material itself. 

 

[Isaac]

if only there will be a SA story arc. MoP has been put to an undefined halt after Episode 17, and it will only come back once the studiu will get again the funds for continuing work. But if we are still here, when speaking about fanservice, NSFW and things like Memories of Phantasm and some...specific scenes. Sometimes, I feel like Japan just exists in a totally different realm from the rest of the world.

I heard that fantasy kaleidoscope was taking a break too. I have a feeling they will be able to get the funds to continue, but we'll see if they adapt the SA arc.

Regarding japan and nsfw, it is uncomfortable for me whenever there is a 'minor looking' character being sexualised regardless of the age. I know there are a lot of different opinions for this and its hard to talk about, especially on social media. 

 

[Gou the frog]

Sometimes, I feel like Japan just exists in a totally different realm from the rest of the world.

It does feel like it sometime. 

When I first joined Touhou which was not long ago. I asked myself why are most of the characters with skirt. Sure, the design are cool. My former self did not understand it even now. Maybe that's why there's a running gag in the community that  "Pants" wearing Characters are so iconic.

Sorry for myself getting so heated right now. I basically just used my early experience of research as future political scientist and work with official regulations in order to make analysis. I really wonder what you have to add on this matter. 

No worries, I also get myself heated by thinking about those things and properly explaining it to my sister. The analysis was pretty decent.

 

[Darksymphony777]

Maybe that's why there's a running gag in the community that  "Pants" wearing Characters are so iconic.

Mokou: hey wriggle

Wriggle: yeah

Mokou: you ever wonder why we're the only people in gensokyo who wear pants

Wriggle:.....huh I never noticed

I can't remember anyone else

 

[Gou the frog]

I heard that fantasy kaleidoscope was taking a break too. I have a feeling they will be able to get the funds to continue, but we'll see if they adapt the SA arc.

I hope so too. Then we can properly discuss about it creating a lot more interesting picks.

Regarding japan and nsfw, it is uncomfortable for me whenever there is a 'minor looking' character being sexualised regardless of the age. I know there are a lot of different opinions for this and its hard to talk about, especially on social media. 

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not going to accept the fact the the 'minor looking' character are 1000 years old, Thus, it's legal.

They still look like minor, often acts like minor so, keep that kind of thing away from me.

I shall be quite honest with you all. Even if I go to the doujinshis for the "naughty" stuff. I have a fair bit of decency to avoid "minors art." Granted, I still have to meet the Yama for that kind of stuff.

I'm tired so, I'll be hitting the bed. Gents and ladies have a fair good night.

 

[Isaac]

As others have said, I think the loose kimono works well for Yuugi. And besides, this is the person who can fight without spilling a single drop of sake form her dish, I really don't think this would be a problem for her.

I'm surprised no-one's talked about Byakuren's idle animation in fighting games yet...

Completely agree there about Yuugi, since the kimono suits her and the place she stays.

Byakuren's biker outfit is another type of fanservice I'm fine with even if its hardly related. This is probably cause I'm just a fan of the designs.

 

[Isaac]

I hope so too. Then we can properly discuss about it creating a lot more interesting picks.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not going to accept the fact the the 'minor looking' character are 1000 years old, Thus, it's legal.

They still look like minor, often acts like minor so, keep that kind of thing away from me.

I shall be quite honest with you all. Even if I go to the doujinshis for the "naughty" stuff. I have a fair bit of decency to avoid "minors art." Granted, I still have to meet the Yama for that kind of stuff.

I'm tired so, I'll be hitting the bed. Gents and ladies have a fair good night.

Thanks for giving your opinion on this!

 

[Darksymphony777]

This time, I'll be bringing frills on the table. So, which character do you think have the best frills design. 

I'll choose Iku.

Ummmmmm sakuya.....I don't know what frills are but I know maids have them I think sounds like a maid thing

 

[CountVonNumenor]

I don't know what frills are but I know maids have them I think sounds like a maid thing

Alright, so looking into the dictionary:

a strip of gathered or pleated material sewn on to a garment or larger piece of material as a decorative edging or ornament.

Basically that things added in extension to sleeves, or on the bottom end of a dress/skirt for aesthetic reasons. And an absolute nightmare any time you have to draw them if you want to creare fanart of characters that posses them on their clothes. At least sometimes

 

[Darksymphony777]

Thanks still going to play it safe and say sakuya because all i know about them is that maids have them

 

[CountVonNumenor]

I shall be quite honest with you all. Even if I go to the doujinshis for the "naughty" stuff. I have a fair bit of decency to avoid "minors art." Granted, I still have to meet the Yama for that kind of stuff.

If I am to be honest too, I think the two of us are on the same wavelength. I am not so much into the idea of "naughty" doujins, but illustrations by themselves are fine. Plus, I am looking for 3 conditions:

1) don't draw them minor-looking; it's just wrong 

2) I'm trying to stay a bit far from exaggerated features like oversized boobs; some like them humongous, but I personally don't find it my cup of tea - normal size is fine

3) don't have them getting pegged; besides the fact it seems wrong, there's one more creepy thing about it. One thing I have noticed very often is that men in such images are drawn as faceless. The famous "Mister" is also faceless for example. Why? One reason I have heard is that you are supposed to self-insert into the image. FUCKING YIKES. So basically, it is made so that ertsin fans can fulfil their fantasies, which is again quite messes up in my opinion 

 

[Isaac]

If I am to be honest too, I think the two of us are on the same wavelength. I am not so much into the idea of "naughty" doujins, but illustrations by themselves are fine. Plus, I am looking for 3 conditions:

1) don't draw them minor-looking; it's just wrong 

2) I'm trying to stay a bit far from exaggerated features like oversized boobs; some like them humongous, but I personally don't find it my cup of tea - normal size is fine

3) don't have them getting pegged; besides the fact it seems wrong, there's one more creepy thing about it. One thing I have noticed very often is that men in such images are drawn as faceless. The famous "Mister" is also faceless for example. Why? One reason I have heard is that you are supposed to self-insert into the image. FUCKING YIKES. So basically, it is made so that ertsin fans can fulfil their fantasies, which is again quite messes up in my opinion 

I'm glad there are many of us who agree with these topics. Having over exaggerated features and being in those situations are too much.

 

[Darksymphony777]

don't draw them minor-looking; it's just wrong

But minor looking adults do exist, sure in certain cases it's wrong because they are kids but there are always those grey areas out there that one should always simply account for

 

[CountVonNumenor]

But minor looking adults do exist, sure in certain cases it's wrong because they are kids but there are always those grey areas out there that one should always simply account for

True, grey zone makes it a bit difficult. Let me rephrase:

1) don't draw 5-10 year olds in inappropriate situations 

Is it a little better now? 

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Anyway, besides the NSFW kind of fanservice, what other kinds of fanservice have you encountered in Touhou materials, be them official or fan-made? Unless there is something we have forgotten to mention on the issue that has been discussed until now, of course. 

 

[Darksymphony777]

I mean I read a lot of fanfiction and I remember reading one called "being meiling" the story is a big pile of fun fanservice for touhou fans, especially fans of our favorite gatekeeper, the story also had robo wars fanservice when cirno through strength of will made a functional robot.......out of ice.....and she goes to save the day and also beat up the inferior nitori and her robots

I read way to much stuff

 

[CountVonNumenor]

I mean I read a lot of fanfiction and I remember reading one called "being meiling" the story is a big pile of fun fanservice for touhou fans, especially fans of our favorite gatekeeper, the story also had robo wars fanservice when cirno through strength of will made a functional robot.......out of ice.....and she goes to save the day and also beat up the inferior nitori and her robots

I read way to much stuff

Sounds like classic character bias fan service. However, it is something new for this thread, and quite refreshing

 

[Darksymphony777]

Well you said fan service and the story that starts with meiling finally foiling Marisa from getting into the SDM and has to deal with all sorts of shenanigans is bound to be filled with harmless fan service.

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Well you said fan service and the story that starts with meiling finally foiling Marisa from getting into the SDM and has to deal with all sorts of shenanigans is bound to be filled with harmless fan service.

Yeah, it is true. I think I did not express myself properly (again). Still, thank you to the contribution to this thread. Its actually a very good example, and something refreshing 

 

[Gou the frog]

Basically that things added in extension to sleeves, or on the bottom end of a dress/skirt for aesthetic reasons. And an absolute nightmare any time you have to draw them if you want to creare fanart of characters that posses them on their clothes. At least sometimes

I'd feel like I'm accompanying Komachi every time I try to draw Iku in a all sort of poses. (Not mentioning Yukari, Kasen, Meiling & other chinese related accessories.)