Do Touhou and gacha work together? (2022 - Touhou LostWord, Danmaku Kagura - closed/going to be revived, Arcadia Record)

[CountVonNumenor]

We're getting Hina's Cheering Saga part 2 as well! Wasn't expecting this already, but it's the event I wanted to see the most. Can't wait to have Parsee's new costume! 

Indeed, so it seems like Anti-Misfortune Grand Prix is going to be the following event. On that note, time to being another news roundup covering the recent situation. in case anyone is interested, here is further reading on the update:

News and updates

With the maintenance of August 19th, quite a few things are gonna get brought in:

Like sodaodaoda said, MV Alice is indeed coming. Together with the banner, there will also be a special stage for her, on the model of MV Remilia's.

Anti-Misfortune Grand Prix is going to be the following event. It seems we skipped 6 events. On one hand, Raiko got shafted again, but on the other, Parsee is in. Apparently, we have also skipped a Tokijo-related event. Hopefully the hype with Parsee is a wake up call that we want more L1 units (which seems to be the thing, as at the time of writing this comment, the Parsee release thread has 20 replies, while MV Alice's only reached 3). Anyway, more general pool units please.

It looks like Parsee will be part of a greater banner, at least according to this image. Overall, information about the role and abilities of Parsee (curtesy to the LW subreddit):

Spoiler

Parsee is probably the strongest General Pool unit currently available. She is better than a lot of older FES units, but can't compete against anything we've gotten recently. Strong, good to have, but probably not worth pulling for specifically. For comparison, she came out in JP about the same time as they got A6 Reimu, and she is not anywhere near that power level.

SHe gives out party Yin atk on boost, and can debuff enemies to give them crit def down, and can lower evasion on a spell card. Other than those things, she is a selfish Yin attacker. Sun element primarily, with some metal on one card and Water on her Last Word. Her Single Target card restores SP, meaning she's less reliant on WoSD And similar power cards.

All Slash last word, so if you want to farm a MSM for her, you can.

in short: she has all the important damaging buffs. Siirit power up, yin/crit atk up, enemy crit def down, and some decent killers. The only thing she lacks is enemy yin defense down. For a Gen Unit, that's great, and she'll be a good addition for anyone who picks her up.

If you're new to the game, spending your Ema to get her is a good idea (assuming she gets added to that pool). I don't think her banner is worth pulling on, but saving up friend rituals for when she gets added to that pool might be worthwhile. She's definitely the best pity-prize you can get when pulling from now on.

Yeah, I guess this is also coming. I still have not finished Interlude, so it's not fully relevant. Just please someone update me on the avalanche of alts that seemed to be coming with this (if they are indeed there)...

So...this will be a 1 time 10 prayers? Well, free prayers are still free, so... yay?

Just as the current x3 rewards campaign is about to end, another one will begin. And I am still not seeing the better drop rate for story cards I might need like WoSD and Puppeteer and Necromancer.

 

[Isaac]

Anti-Misfortune Grand Prix is going to be the following event. It seems we skipped 6 events. On one hand, Raiko got shafted again, but on the other, Parsee is in. Apparently, we have also skipped a Tokijo-related event. Hopefully the hype with Parsee is a wake up call that we want more L1 units (which seems to be the thing, as at the time of writing this comment, the Parsee release thread has 20 replies, while MV Alice's only reached 3). Anyway, more general pool units please.



It looks like Parsee will be part of a greater banner, at least according to this image. Overall, information about the role and abilities of Parsee (curtesy to the LW subreddit):

Spoiler

Parsee is probably the strongest General Pool unit currently available. She is better than a lot of older FES units, but can't compete against anything we've gotten recently. Strong, good to have, but probably not worth pulling for specifically. For comparison, she came out in JP about the same time as they got A6 Reimu, and she is not anywhere near that power level.

SHe gives out party Yin atk on boost, and can debuff enemies to give them crit def down, and can lower evasion on a spell card. Other than those things, she is a selfish Yin attacker. Sun element primarily, with some metal on one card and Water on her Last Word. Her Single Target card restores SP, meaning she's less reliant on WoSD And similar power cards.

All Slash last word, so if you want to farm a MSM for her, you can.

in short: she has all the important damaging buffs. Siirit power up, yin/crit atk up, enemy crit def down, and some decent killers. The only thing she lacks is enemy yin defense down. For a Gen Unit, that's great, and she'll be a good addition for anyone who picks her up.

If you're new to the game, spending your Ema to get her is a good idea (assuming she gets added to that pool). I don't think her banner is worth pulling on, but saving up friend rituals for when she gets added to that pool might be worthwhile. She's definitely the best pity-prize you can get when pulling from now on.

I'm very happy to have Parsee arrive with her event now. It's satisfying to see my favourite after waiting every day for her to be playable. However, I'm not done until I see Tojiko, Raiko and the others here with their events too. Even if Parsee had the lowest stats in the game, I would still have her on my team all the time :)

 

[smortkoishi]

after the 0.5 anniversary they decided to no longer give us free crystal after a new stage, and I have not see everyone talking about it until now when in discord, the THLW mods always going white knight if s.o talk dirty on NN ,but now after they " put it in " the game people are surprised? Like, they just put a feature they deleted after those rushing banner and call it new? 

Eosd Reimu but the d is silenced 

 

[sodaodaoda]

5 hours ago, smortkoishi said:

Huh? I get SCs when I clear a stage tho? Is this JP?

 

[smortkoishi]

Huh? I get SCs when I clear a stage tho? Is this JP?

first clear, yes but they have been nerfing it to only 1 sc and no more do repeat stage to get free SCs so they don't let us do 10 pulls right away but somehow they just decide to brink it back again

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Before Chapter 4 drops in a few hours, I will leave here a theory someone came up with about what this whole might be about (unless anyone playing JP and might already know what it is about):

Spoiler

I've been thinking a bit about what Chapter 4 will be about (other than being a beach episode) and reading Beach Yukari's lore gave me some ideas.

First, going by the patterns of the previous chapters, Chapter 4 should logically be Imperishable Night themed. However, this doesn't seem immediately obvious. If anything it seems like the world is permanent sun all the time, the opposite of an imperishable night. And none of the characters we've seen so far (Yukari, Reimu, Marisa, Hecatia and Rinnosuke) were introduced in that game. (Although the first three were playable) But I still think it is ultimately gonna center around the Eientei gang.

For starters the title of the chapter is "Eternal Battlefront". The word "Eternal" in Touhou almost always concerns Kaguya and the Eientei gang. It's like "Scarlet" for Remilia and the SDM crew. Second, Eientei are clearly up to some shit in the main story. At the end of Chapter 3 they don't show up for the Gathering of Girlbosses™ and instead say they're ready to fight anyone who gets in their way. And in the Interlude they're having secret meetings with the Watatsuki sisters and Reisen is spying on the main characters.

Chapters 2 and 3 had the L1 versions of the characters who show up in the alternate worlds be in the beginning. In Chapter 2 Marisa is there at the start and talks with Patchouli about giving up her humanity and becoming a Youkai Magician, which is what we later find out WoSD Marisa has done. In Chapter 3 Youmu shows up at the beginning and is insecure about her sword skills, foreshadowing MSM Youmu who is the swordiest sword master of them all. If Eientei are becoming more relevant in the story, it seems likely that it will be foreshadowing to alts of them being relevant in the alternate world.

And I think Beach Yukari's lore gives some pretty good hints at what's exactly going on in the C3 universe. The main things it tells us about this world is that it's filled with water and is essentially a paradise that is so chill and relaxing that no one really cares about doing anything other than chilling and relaxing.

A paradise filled with water sounds suspiciously like another place in Touhou: The Moon. In Touhou the Moon has a bunch of seas and unless you're a moon rabbit all you do is live a carefree immortal life free of hardship. We know that the world Beach Yukari is from isn't literally the Moon, because she mentions in her dialogue being able to go there, meaning that's not where she usually is.

Another important clue is that the description for C3 Yukari's ability mentions that whatever event caused the world to diverge from the main one probably happened before Yukari existed since she doesn't know about it, and Yukari is at least 1000 years old. The description mentions that this divergence might have occurred millions of years ago, and that it might have been caused not by something occurring, but instead something not occurring. One of the oldest things we know to have happened in the Touhou timeline was Lord Tsukuyomi and Eirin yeeting themselves to the Moon and establishing the Lunar Capital.

My theory is that in the C3 Universe this didn't happen, and Eirin established her watery paradise on the Earth instead. The Lost Word(s) for this world might be "Tsukuyomi", since he was the one who came up with the Moon plan, or it might be "impurity", since that's what the Lunarians fled to the Moon to avoid. (And if Earth didn't have any impurity there would be nothing stopping it from being a paradise).

Another thing not directly related to the rest of the theory is that the description for C3 Yukari's Last Word mentions that the historical events of our world also happened in her world in almost the exact same way... despite the world being flooded with water for thousands of years. That seems extremely suspicious, but if Chapter 4 is Imperishable Night themed, perhaps there is an alt Keine running around making sure history unfolds as usual despite the water.

This theory is probably gonna get immediately disproven tomorrow but I wanted to get it out ahead of time incase I'm right so that I can look super smart

The text comes from this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou_lostword/comments/wrwgdt/chapter_4_theory/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

 

[sodaodaoda]

I rolled like 200 times on the Alice banner so far, my seal crystals went under the 1000 mark, nothing. No signs of her at all.
I got baited several times by the loading screen.

Edit: I wasted 600GC now, I got Tewi, Komachi and Mystia.

I hate my life.

 

[Isaac]

I rolled like 200 times on the Alice banner so far, my seal crystals went under the 1000 mark, nothing. No signs of her at all.
I got baited several times by the loading screen.

Edit: I wasted 600GC now, I got Tewi, Komachi and Mystia.

I hate my life.

Hopefully you'll be able to have her eventually Soda!

As for me, I'm really glad to be with Parsee now. I was lucky enough to have her adorable costume too!

 

[sodaodaoda]

Hopefully you'll be able to have her eventually Soda!

As for me, I'm really to glad to be with Parsee now. I was lucky enough to have her adorable costume too!

Thank you Isaac, I hope so too, her banner lasts till September iirc, so I do have time for her.
And I'm glad you got Parsee! Even her costume!

Also another edit: I just noticed, it turns out the "Connecting..." screen isn't so reliable anymore. Apparently the devs changed it so it shows up for every unit, regardless of if you have it already or no.

Bullshit.

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Honestly, now I really wanna go in a corner and cry again. Why? I have watched again images from Cannonball and DanKagu. Just look at these beautiful animations, which, even if they are just Live2D models, they are so much more cute and lively than the PowerPoint presentation that is LostWord

 

[smortkoishi]

2 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Honestly, now I really wanna go in a corner and cry again. Why? I have watched again images from Cannonball and DanKagu. Just look at these beautiful animations, which, even if they are just Live2D models, they are so much more cute and lively than the PowerPoint presentation that is LostWord

yeah cannonball is really a good game but with poor marketing and low income to pay for the live2d and VA so yeah dead is inevitable , And now Touhou DK is following the same route as well it is a shame. 
Also that maniac who like akuuu alot is back now and he going even more wild than before

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Also that maniac who like akuuu alot is back now and he going even more wild than before

Wow,  now I really wanna see that one 

 

[smortkoishi]

Wow,  now I really wanna see that one 

just search in the new post in facebook group and you could see him on top page now, I think we could write a full documentary on him being cringy and angry as much

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Minor spoiler for the current event, but I love the way the game characterised Raiko.  She's so wholesome in this iteration:

 

[Isaac]

SA Satori!!! She looks amazing and I love her expressions a lot! I already have koishi, so I can't wait to have the rest of the classic SA cast too!

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Alright, it is time again for the news roundup:

News and updates 

We have an entire chart when it comes to new content. All of it will be available starting with the 26th of August following maintenance





And also on characters, people are still looking for the general units Global still has not received. Since Parsee was brought into the game last week, the focus seems to have shifted towards Soga no Tojiko. Do not worry, I will get started a similar discussion about Raiko as well, just to have threads about the general units everyone wants to be in the game already, were supposed to come long ago, yet have not appeared yet. (like I said last time, I really like the way Raiko has been characterized in the latest event, giving her a wholesome aura - actually very close to her Touhou canon version - welcome to me Raiko simping TED Talk)



Last and not least, I have asked a question in regards to how has this game managed to survive for so long. To be fair, I am not very sure myself. Especially given the relatively low production level and budged compared to the other Touhou games that dies out. It seems though that this one, despite feeling lackluster, actually managed to gain enough money in order to survive not only 2 years, but also expand to global level, while both Cannonball and DanKagu died in their JP phase (despite being games highly regarded by the player base, especially in the case of DanKagu, which really seemed to have had a lot of love put into it by creators). Anyway, an interesting thing I have found thanks to Discord is a (unofficial) chart about the financial gains of the game since the beginning of the year.

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-GeOwwWrqTREmwB-wEmcnVB01uOA1nOWh9c4sVpBP2M/edit#gid=0 

 

[smortkoishi]

Last and not least, I have asked a question in regards to how has this game managed to survive for so long. To be fair, I am not very sure myself. Especially given the relatively low production level and budged compared to the other Touhou games that dies out. It seems though that this one, despite feeling lackluster, actually managed to gain enough money in order to survive not only 2 years, but also expand to global level, while both Cannonball and DanKagu died in their JP phase (despite being games highly regarded by the player base, especially in the case of DanKagu, which really seemed to have had a lot of love put into it by creators). Anyway, an interesting thing I have found thanks to Discord is a (unofficial) chart about the financial gains of the game since the beginning of the year.

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-GeOwwWrqTREmwB-wEmcnVB01uOA1nOWh9c4sVpBP2M/edit#gid=0 

I could say that by using cheap jpg and putting most of fan work like story cards and music ost can save alot of money from the live 2d and actual dedication in VA for the characters, too much money put in and low profits will just left the game died, and too little money put in and release character to keep the income stable will be able to lead the game to long term survival. Also Marisa icon, that is the main reasons.
Also do any of you have problem with s1 and s3 of Yukari sometimes just unlock 1 bind of 1 character, not entire party?

 

[sodaodaoda]

GUYS, HOLY SHIT, GREAT NEWS FOR ME!!!

I FINALLY FUCKING GOT HER!! JESUS CHRIST

I actually feel so dead yet so happy that I finally have her... Why, you may ask? Well.....

I think that the exchange points counter gives an answer to that xd
I'll probably spark for another Alice, to use in farming, hehe >:3

Also, if you find my ramblings about what I got annoying, please tell me. I post these just because I'm happy that I got someone I like, rather than to brag.

PCB Ran is next, unfortunately, I probably won't get her. I'll most likely skip a few banners.

 

[CountVonNumenor]

Also, if you find my ramblings about what I got annoying, please tell me. I post these just because I'm happy that I got someone I like, rather than to brag.

Oh, do not worry. this is absolutely welcome. It is actually nice when I get to see someone else rambling, and it is not just me writing walls of text. This the same for everyone else too. Write as much as you wish, and do not shy away from long texts or rambling. I tend to do that all the time.

Also congrats for getting Alice.

P.S: due to the way pages work, the roundup ended up coming on the previous page, which it uncomfortable if anyone wants to comment on that  and stay up to date with the discussions over here on the next page. 

 

[Isaac]

GUYS, HOLY SHIT, GREAT NEWS FOR ME!!!


I FINALLY FUCKING GOT HER!! JESUS CHRIST

I actually feel so dead yet so happy that I finally have her... Why, you may ask? Well.....


I think that the exchange points counter gives an answer to that xd
I'll probably spark for another Alice, to use in farming, hehe >:3

Also, if you find my ramblings about what I got annoying, please tell me. I post these just because I'm happy that I got someone I like, rather than to brag.

PCB Ran is next, unfortunately, I probably won't get her. I'll most likely skip a few banners.

Congrats on having Alice now Soda! Don't worry about rambling as well, I think all of us should start posting more moments like this. Anything to help brighten our mood on the game is nice, just like how Count shared that Raiko interaction from the events!