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So, the results of the Touhou Popularity Poll 2022 are up...

CountVonNumenor

CountVonNumenor

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Honestly, all three tops are quite disappointing. Overrated characters got the character top (Mokou gang forever though) - all of them are either too popular because of simply being popular. The music top is rigged and the most disappointing, many good themes are somewhere in the depths. I feel like first three should't be taken into consideration. Game top is not really surprising or disappointing, people tend to play EoSD and IN only since first one is the most popular and first windows game, and IN because it is called "the easiest" game.

 
I'm going to be honest here. I think some people are taking the results way too seriously. At the end of the day, the popularity poll is just meant to be something fun for the community. It shouldn't affect how you feel about certain characters and themes, since it's your vote that matters the most. That being said, I love all the characters, so I'm happy with any outcome!

 
Isaac said:
I'm going to be honest here. I think some people are taking the results way too seriously. At the end of the day, the popularity poll is just meant to be something fun for the community. It shouldn't affect how you feel about certain characters and themes, since it's your vote that matters the most. That being said, I love all the characters, so I'm happy with any outcome!
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I agree with this sentiment. It's a popularity poll, so I'm always quite puzzled that people are disappointed or angry or whatever when the popular thing inevitably wins. EoSD might not be my favorite shooter and U. N. Owen might not be my favorite song, but regardless of whether you consider them "overrated" or whatever the ultimate outcome is the same:

  • "I think they're overrated" - Why be disappointed with the results then? If the number of people that like it exceeds what you expect then it placing high should be no surprise (as being disappointed entails that you had different expectations).
  • "I don't think they're overrated, but (less popular thing) is better so it should've won/placed higher/etc." - That's not the point. Fans of a medium aren't automatically experienced critics, and most people won't use high placements on a popularity poll to discover new works/songs/whatever anyways because if it placed high on a popularity poll there's a pretty good chance they already know about it.
Is this just the innate human underdog effect where they desperately want to root for the less likely candidate even in this scenario where the premise of the contest is to gauge the exact opposite? Who knows.

(Also, as a side note, I believe most people like Internet Survivor for the high effort and passionately-made PV more so than the song itself.)

And now that the civilized part of the post is over, ahem

WE WIN FLANDRE BROS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KOISHI AND YOUMU BTFOOO RAAAAAAAAAAGGGGH #FLANDRESWEEP
 
Isaac said:
I'm going to be honest here. I think some people are taking the results way too seriously. At the end of the day, the popularity poll is just meant to be something fun for the community. It shouldn't affect how you feel about certain characters and themes, since it's your vote that matters the most. That being said, I love all the characters, so I'm happy with any outcome!
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ACE_DEUCE said:
I agree with this sentiment. It's a popularity poll, so I'm always quite puzzled that people are disappointed or angry or whatever when the popular thing inevitably wins. EoSD might not be my favorite shooter and U. N. Owen might not be my favorite song, but regardless of whether you consider them "overrated" or whatever the ultimate outcome is the same:
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Yeah, i guess that is true. I guess though many of us become very invested in this whole thing and the whole "waifu" idea that you forget the whole purpose of the poll - having fun. It just stings though to see when someone you like/appreciate is pretty much falling in popularity/in becoming irrelevant. Combined with seeing characters you do not care of score higher...yeah. 

Whenever I become too invested in something, I end up forgetting to have fun with it. 

ACE_DEUCE said:
(Also, as a side note, I believe most people like Internet Survivor for the high effort and passionately-made PV more so than the song itself.)
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Perhaps I should give it a second chance. I see it is a popular song, yet after one listen, I did not feel like I wanted to hear it again. But the video in itself looked good. Focusing it on Flan might be what did no tick for me, as she is one of the second half on the tier list character for me (never found the appeal of the vampire loli idea). But again, maybe the song is better than I remember (I literally can't remember anything out of it). So why not. Again, at the end of the opening post I did congratulate the winners of this year. If you are a person that likes Touhou 6, this sure has been your lucky year - also happy birthday, as the game turned 20 just less than a couple months ago.   

ACE_DEUCE said:
WE WIN FLANDRE BROS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KOISHI AND YOUMU BTFOOO RAAAAAAAAAAGGGGH #FLANDRESWEEP
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Glad to see you are happy. As long as people are happy, I am happy too. 

ACE_DEUCE said:
"I don't think they're overrated, but (less popular thing) is better so it should've won/placed higher/etc." - That's not the point. Fans of a medium aren't automatically experienced critics, and most people won't use high placements on a popularity poll to discover new works/songs/whatever anyways because if it placed high on a popularity poll there's a pretty good chance they already know about it.
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Personally, I would not have said "overrated" as much as "overused". I can understand these have been fan-favorites for 2 decades now, but it is always funny the surprise when something completely unexpected goes up in the ranks. Also perhaps I may need a break, as there were moments when I had the feeling the entirety of Touhou fandom revolves around EoSD. Not that is completely bad, but I feel there are other other things in this vast ocean called Touhou people forget about way too easily. Be it a song, a character etc. If you dig enough through the series, you may find more things you did not expect to enjoy. 


Also please keep in mind. Everything below the linked thread from r/touhou are quotes taken from the comment section. They do not reflet the view of that who wrote this thread here on Moriya, so take it as somebody else's interpretation of what is going on.

 
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Honestly I tend to disregard looking at the top picks in favor of seeing how the lower ones stack up against each other, as it's much more interesting to me. I'll admit, as someone who makes derivative work (music) and occasionally helps others with fan projects/jam games, I care a bit more about what other people care about to an extent. It's useful data to gauge what fans on average are interested in.

However, personally, I find the results disappointing. It's not a "I wish my favorite character won" but more of a "Oh boy, I can't wait for more derivative works to focus only on the casts from the first few Windows games again". I'm a fan, I consume fanworks. Sometimes I want a little more variety in the things I consume. EoSD often feels like it casts this huge shadow over the rest of the series in that regard. It sort of reminds me of how Generation I is to the Pokemon franchise, but in the fanwork sphere.

With that all said, I definitely understand everything that led to Flandre getting 1st, being 17.5, the 20th Anniversary of EoSD, and apparently some fanmade things I'm not entirely in-the-know about.

 
CountVonNumenor said:
But for something more interesting, the results since the first popularity poll updated:
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I can proudly say that Meiling is still here in the vast top 25th. Although, the cast from 16th onwards to 18th is appeared to be missing. 

I don't really know how I feel about her taking most of the categories. Maybe I'm slaty that EoSD is overshadowing the other titles but perhaps, I'm proud she is at the first place for the first time. In any case, it turned out to be a surprise since I foresaw that her theme will stay at top 5. Lo and behold, would you look at that.

CountVonNumenor said:
But yeah, after all, I am also that kind of idiot who casts his vote on characters like Akyuu, Eiki or Raiko, so who the hell am I to talk.
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Do you need a hand on that matter? Cause evidently, I happen to be one of those people.

CountVonNumenor said:
guess she has some new dedicated fans?
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Call and they will arrive.

I really wish that our older cast and newer cast got a place in the ranking. As much as damm EoSD being one of my first games. I believe it's time to move on. I will wait for that day; doubt I'll be alive by then. Anyways, happy voting everyone.

 
Darksymphony777 said:
Meiling up woohoo.

Now I'm being reminded of burning meiling, I wanna see her and Byakuren square off so bad 
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i love that series, the fights were so good and i wish it continued. i like how they didnt make her win every single fight she did either, power level differences were believable. 

 
Darksymphony777 said:
Now I'm being reminded of burning meiling,
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I've always been curious about that series. I should really check it out one day...

Ka Takane said:
Hey, that's my comment lol
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Oh, nice to have found you. Enjoy the cameo  :KoishiXD:
 

Gou the frog said:
Although, the cast from 16th onwards to 18th is appeared to be missing. 
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I have already pointed that out a few minutes ago in the other popularity poll thread. It is quite a shame there is something about these characters preventing them from scoring higher. Like I said, it is a stark contrast from the game up to SA, an era when debuting characters could score #1 or at least top 5 with just a brief appearance in that game. The map of each year's top 20 from the opening post might show that quite clearly. 
 

Gou the frog said:
Do you need a hand on that matter? Cause evidently, I happen to be one of those people.
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Oh, so I guess we are on the same boat. Welcome to the club! 

Turbonator said:
#cunnysweep
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Seems like the power of cunny 😭 has been rather intense nowadays, or at least the meme still holds some relevance. Not only when it comes to Touhou, but apparently with the rest of anime too. Or maybe I just spent too much time around a bunch of degenerates...

Eulogous said:
Honestly I tend to disregard looking at the top picks in favor of seeing how the lower ones stack up against each other, as it's much more interesting to me. I'll admit, as someone who makes derivative work (music) and occasionally helps others with fan projects/jam games, I care a bit more about what other people care about to an extent. It's useful data to gauge what fans on average are interested in.
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Interesting point. It reminds me of a few more more people who were saying they preferred looking at the chart from the lowest places first to the top, only to see something different than the same 5-6 2hus always taking the same places every year. But I can see why a content creator would try to align with the more popular stuff, as it could bring them more publicity and fans interested in that thing. 
 

Eulogous said:
However, personally, I find the results disappointing. It's not a "I wish my favorite character won" but more of a "Oh boy, I can't wait for more derivative works to focus only on the casts from the first few Windows games again". I'm a fan, I consume fanworks. Sometimes I want a little more variety in the things I consume. EoSD often feels like it casts this huge shadow over the rest of the series in that regard. It sort of reminds me of how Generation I is to the Pokemon franchise, but in the fanwork sphere.
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Honestly, this is exactly the same feeling I had. Not so much about my favorites scoring low (they had low chance to even dream scoring high anyway) as it was about the same things ending up being overused...again. It feels as if the whole series only resumes and revolves around this select few characters and songs (in the case of Touhou being EoSD, maybe PCB and IN too, while for Pokemon it is Gen 1 like you pointed out). 

Eulogous said:
With that all said, I definitely understand everything that led to Flandre getting 1st, being 17.5, the 20th Anniversary of EoSD, and apparently some fanmade things I'm not entirely in-the-know about.
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Indeed, Flandre and EoSD had a magic year, where a lot of things came together neatly for boosting its popularity. By now, I have ended up just growing indifferent to what happened, and just got back to my regular business of enjoying my favorites parts of the series.

Huh, it's been a long time and only now did I manage to finally catch up and reply to what has been going on. Sorry for all the waiting

 
Alternatively, I see there are also videos presenting the position of characters per game (keep in mind, this video example only starts counting from Touhou 6)




 
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