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Nitorium

Nitorium

Shrine God
Staff member
Hi everyone,

I’ve been doing a lot of reflecting lately, and I think this contest was a wake-up call for me.

Honestly, I don’t think splitting it into tiers or making one for each difficulty would have changed much. We’ve tried that before, and the turnout was just as quiet. That’s not on any of you. It’s just where things are.

When I first took over this site, I didn’t really know what Touhou was. But that didn’t matter, because I loved the people. I loved the folks I got to work alongside. It was fun, it was lively, and it was something I looked forward to. I never cared what it cost me to keep that going, because it was worth it.

Lately, it just hasn’t felt that way.

Could I keep the site running without contests or forum events? Sure. But that’s not why I’m here. I don’t want to just keep the lights on. I want to be part of this place, and right now I don’t feel like I am.

I really hate that it’s come to this, and I’m truly sorry to all of you. I want you to know I tried. I really did.

As for the contest, I’ll reach out to the winner in a separate post. I really want to say thank you to all those that participated in this.

Now I want to ask you the same thing I asked the staff, because this community belongs to all of us:

Would you like to see Moriya Shrine continue under a new owner, or is it time to let it rest?

If you’d like it to continue, someone will need to step up and volunteer. Whoever takes it on should know what it really takes to keep this place running, and be willing to learn the infrastructure behind the services we provide. I’ll help however I can to make that handoff a smooth one.

I’ll leave this open for at least 10 days. If no one has volunteered by then, I’ll put the domain up for sale. Before that happens, I’ll upload as much of the forum as I can to archive.org, so the memories we made here aren’t lost completely.

I realize this may be sudden but it wasn't for me. I hope you understand.

Whatever happens, thank you for every post, every laugh, and every moment you shared here. It meant more to me than I can put into words.
 
I'm basically impartial on whether/how this site continues to exist, but I hope you won't mind me sharing some thoughts.

Thank you for organizing the competition. I actually did train for it but I wasn't as disciplined as I could have been and I was never able to achieve a score worth submitting, but it still added a fun motivational twist for me. I appreciate stuff like like this! I know the money doesn't come out of thin air so I wanted to let you know it at least made my month a little more interesting.

Best wishes to you and even if the site can't really exist anymore, I hope you don't get too caught up in negativity or think of this as a failure. Nothing lasts forever. Personally, there was some positive and some negative with this site just like any other website I use but it was definitely more positive than not. I'll always remember it. And it's all just because I wanted to download some games!
 
It's sad to see you go, i hope everything in the end will turn out well for this site and in your life as well, take care o7

Just for the sake of this site still running, i would be volounteering but i don't know if i would be able to do it consistently since i dont really know how much it takes to do it, and i doubt that i would be financially able to run this site

So i hope that atleast maybe Idkism, SateriCat or PachePCH will want to take over (or that you will have a change of mine)
 
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YumeChud97 said:
It's sad to see you go, i hope everything in the end will turn out well for this site and in your life as well, take care o7

Just for the sake of this site still running, i would be volounteering but i don't know if i would be able to do it consistently since i dont really know how much it takes to do it, and i doubt that i would be financially able to run this site

So i hope that atleast maybe Idkism, SateriCat or PachePCH will want to take over (or that you will have a change of mine)
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I would try to take over if I knew how to run a site (as I'd be content with just "keeping the lights on", as I wouldn't want this site gone regardless), but I unfortunately don't, and I of course don't have money either, so someone else would have to do the monetary funding in any case.
Best thing we can hope is that maybe Idkism or another high-ranking person on this site will take over if Nitorium will in fact leave.
 
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I’ve been doing a lot of reflecting lately, and I think this contest was a wake-up call for me.
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Look, the whole thing with the competition 'not getting a lot of attention' is making a mountain out of a molehill. Some big names showed out to submit, and I really do believe that others (like myself) would have submitted is lower difficulties were included. Sure, it had a slow start, but there was a good amount of submissions by the end. I wouldn't call it a complete failure like you're implying; If you want bigger turnouts, you've just gotta make some adjustments going into the future. It's nothing worth blowing the site to Hell and gone over.

Disregarding that, there's still ample activity in the forums and uploads every other week or so. If you really want to see what a 'dead site' looks like, pop over to Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. The difference between there and here is palpable. The community would really be losing something special if the site were to shut down, as this is the last remote for Touhou forums. All you would really have left are fragmented communities and the God-forsaken Reddit page, which is literally just people posting soft-core porn.

I'm understanding if part of your consideration is due to resources (both time and money) getting tight. I don't think any of us here are going to force a gun to your head for being too broke and/or busy to run the site. But the angle of 'nobody cares about events and therefore the site' comes off as a very strange to me, especially when improvements can be made in the future. When the site eventually kicks the bucket, it should do so with a bang, not a whimper.
 
In any case, I'm not stepping down and most likely other mods too, and would like to work with the new owner. I still enjoy to be a part of community, even if its a bit underground, and some fangames are really fun. I dont interact with official material much, but damn did I go down the rabbit hole with this website
 
YuyuFumo said:
Look, the whole thing with the competition 'not getting a lot of attention' is making a mountain out of a molehill. Some big names showed out to submit, and I really do believe that others (like myself) would have submitted is lower difficulties were included. Sure, it had a slow start, but there was a good amount of submissions by the end. I wouldn't call it a complete failure like you're implying; If you want bigger turnouts, you've just gotta make some adjustments going into the future. It's nothing worth blowing the site to Hell and gone over.

Disregarding that, there's still ample activity in the forums and uploads every other week or so. If you really want to see what a 'dead site' looks like, pop over to Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. The difference between there and here is palpable. The community would really be losing something special if the site were to shut down, as this is the last remote for Touhou forums. All you would really have left are fragmented communities and the God-forsaken Reddit page, which is literally just people posting soft-core porn.

I'm understanding if part of your consideration is due to resources (both time and money) getting tight. I don't think any of us here are going to force a gun to your head for being too broke and/or busy to run the site. But the angle of 'nobody cares about events and therefore the site' comes off as a very strange to me, especially when improvements can be made in the future. When the site eventually kicks the bucket, it should do so with a bang, not a whimper.
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Another thing which be a big blow to this community if this site were to down would be taking the main way people currently have to download the Touhou games for free. You can't even have much easy access to many of the games on here anywhere else.
Especially with some of the fangames.
 
Lightningreed said:
In any case, I'm not stepping down and most likely other mods too, and would like to work with the new owner. I still enjoy to be a part of community, even if its a bit underground, and some fangames are really fun. I dont interact with official material much, but damn did I go down the rabbit hole with this website
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I feel that rabbit hole is what makes Touhou, and this site, so much worth protecting. There's very few works and sites which have a community this deep. It's also the only one I've willing to take part in by virtue of the fact that most on this site aren't snobby and mean like everywhere else seems to be.
Yeah, you get some bad apples (pun intended), but you see a lot of good folks on here you don't see really anywhere else.
Kindness is a dying thing in this world, and yet it still seems to thrive on this site.
I quite literally wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as into Touhou as I have if it weren't for this site's existence.
 
YuyuFumo said:
Look, the whole thing with the competition 'not getting a lot of attention' is making a mountain out of a molehill. Some big names showed out to submit, and I really do believe that others (like myself) would have submitted is lower difficulties were included. Sure, it had a slow start, but there was a good amount of submissions by the end. I wouldn't call it a complete failure like you're implying; If you want bigger turnouts, you've just gotta make some adjustments going into the future. It's nothing worth blowing the site to Hell and gone over.

Disregarding that, there's still ample activity in the forums and uploads every other week or so. If you really want to see what a 'dead site' looks like, pop over to Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. The difference between there and here is palpable. The community would really be losing something special if the site were to shut down, as this is the last remote for Touhou forums. All you would really have left are fragmented communities and the God-forsaken Reddit page, which is literally just people posting soft-core porn.

I'm understanding if part of your consideration is due to resources (both time and money) getting tight. I don't think any of us here are going to force a gun to your head for being too broke and/or busy to run the site. But the angle of 'nobody cares about events and therefore the site' comes off as a very strange to me, especially when improvements can be made in the future. When the site eventually kicks the bucket, it should do so with a bang, not a whimper.
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I know this message was posted earlier but I'm new to the touhou community and the subreddit was the first place I stumbled across and GOD it was awful. It just makes preserving this place even more important, its a good place to get into the community.
 
Lightningreed said:
In any case, I'm not stepping down and most likely other mods too, and would like to work with the new owner. I still enjoy to be a part of community, even if its a bit underground, and some fangames are really fun. I dont interact with official material much, but damn did I go down the rabbit hole with this website
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Agreed, I don't plan on voluntarily abandoning the site if there's a new owner.
 
YuyuFumo said:
If you really want to see what a 'dead site' looks like, pop over to Maidens of the Kaleidoscope.
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I wanna also mention SMBX forums which has in avarge around 30 daily users, including guests of course, if guests were excluded then it would be like 3 users in daily avarge
 
SateriCat17 said:
Another thing which be a big blow to this community if this site were to down would be taking the main way people currently have to download the Touhou games for free. You can't even have much easy access to many of the games on here anywhere else.
Especially with some of the fangames.
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it would force me to be a larper with only 7 out of 32 existing official touhou games being played (excluding IaMP which i didn't play longer than 5 minutes and i don't plan on ever touching it again)
 
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